"Steven C. Darnold" wrote: > Sorry, Day, this is double-dutch to me. You are talking > about some sort of graphical menu program, not Linux. I > use Linux on a survPC. It does not have the horsepower to > waste on point-and-click eye-candy. I do not have KDE on > any of my systems. I do not have Gnome on any of my systems. > I am truly unfamiliar with your "control center" thing. > > > This is a convention most pc users are familiar with, > > the 'X' in the upper right to close an app, and the 'start > > in the lower left to open up a menu of other apps. > > Rubbish. Show me this "convention" in DOS. Show me this > "convention" in Windows 3.1. Your "convention" came to the > PC with Windows 95. The PC (and its conventions) existed > a decade before that. I find it odd that a champion of DOS > should be thinking of the PC in terms of the Windows GUI. Most pc users use windoz. Whether I like it, or think it is a good idea, it is the convention. I frankly think it sux. but all the win users know it. even in 31, IIRC. it means dragging the mouse all the way from the upper right corner to shut down one app, then all the way to the lower left to start another... unless you got the icon, which is usually lined up on the left side.
> How do you know? You are ready to blame Linux for every little > problem; however, it seems more likely to me that you are the > cause of your own misfortune. Even in terminal, ctrl-alt-F2, at the cli, I could no longer mount any other hard drive. told me it didnt recognize the file system, too many mounted file systems, etc, even though it only had the one scsi mounted. > > the next boot hung at the message a lot of Linux users know: > > LI > > A LILO problem. Most likely "Kernel image not found." Did you > install a kernel? Did you tell LILO about it? I'm no expert on > LILO (I never use it myself), but I think that whenever you alter > the kernel, you need to update LILO. Well, I had not intended to do alter the kernel. that seems to have been done for me by YAST trying to repair the damage from trying to install a cd rom game at the cli with #sh setup.sh Before, clicking on the icon in the cdrom file menu got me an error message. I shouldda listened. It had not occurred to me that I could have a game cd that would not run on Suse. > > I did something windoz users know all to well: re-installed. > > This was a stupid waste of time. There was probably nothing > wrong with your installation. The 'rescue floppy' wouldnt. > > > Off hand, I dont think the first install went right. > > Here you go again, blaming the installation. > > > I could not get Netscape communicator running on it; > > Really? > > > it would close as soon as I tried to download mail, > > It? You mean Netscape? So it was running well enough to > move around and configure your mail parameters. You did > configure your mail parameters, didn't you? Maybe that's > the reason it didn't download. Oh, I could use Navigator, and download all right. > > even though kmail had no problems. > > Well, looks like your installation was working afterall. > > > The game cd that I tried to install ran so slow it was > > useless, > > So you concluded that because the games ran slow, there was > something wrong with Linux? My, my. Haven't you been listening? > All that point-and-click eye-candy puts a tremendous burden on a > survPC. Of course your computer ran slow! The solution to the > problem is *not* reinstallation. You should reduce the eye-candy. No, what I said was that it trashed Linux. Everything else _had_ run much faster than I've ever seen Linux run. Really nice. Netscape loaded in 6-7 seconds. I havnt timed the boot yet, but I think it prolly comes up from cold boot in 90 seconds. > As I have said many times: brain-dead, point-and-click, > "user-friendly" distributions are for up-to-date computers. > With a survPC you need to rely more on your own brain to do > the work. This is a cheap setup, but the vintage of the system is about the same as that of the distro: suse 6.4, running a 600mhz VIA C3 and a 8 gig scsi with 256meg dram. I got another game cd, Myth II, with a 3D graphic engine that runs just fine. I havnt really done anything with the game, dont have time, but I did want to see what Linux would do with it. But the Quake III demo would take 20 seconds to go from one item to the next choice on the startup menu. Since it started at the top, 'Play' and I hadda go down thru 'demo', 'preferences', 'save game', it took so long to get down to 'quit' I was tempted to go to terminal to shut down the system. To unsubscribe from SURVPC send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe SURVPC in the body of the message. Also, trim this footer from any quoted replies. More info can be found at; http://www.softcon.com/archives/SURVPC.html
