Bob George wrote: > > New, newer, brand-new, most-newest? The post advocated > CONSIDERING such replacement, yes. Is that threatening?
Threatening no. Inappropriate yes. Just as it is inappropriate to post meat recipes in a vegetarian discussion group I realize that you meat-eaters think we should CONSIDER eating meat, but this is not the place to say it. > > IMHO it is offensive for someone to suggest > > (on a survPC list) that we should discard our > > survPCs and buy brand new. > > And that's YOUR opinion. Yeah, Bob, that's what IMHO means. > Many on this list have views that vary, strange > as that may seem. It's not strange that views vary. Even meat-eaters are welcome to discuss vegetarian receipes. However, advocating meat-eating is not welcome. > Sadly, there may come a time when the INDIVIDUAL has to > decide when outright replacement outweighs the benefit > and/or sentimental value of upgrading a beloved old system. So? Everyone here is very welcome to go out and buy the latest and greatest machine (with or without Windows -- the choice is yours). I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it. However, I don't want to hear about your new machine. And I *certainly* don't want to hear you advocating that others should ditch their old PCs and buy new hardware. > I've gone through this myself several times (alas, trading > away my beloved Olivetti M24 -- my 1st DOS machine out of > necessity). So have I. So what? When I ditched my C-64 and got a PC, I certainly didn't plague C-64 discussion groups with PC stuff. > The list is also about LOW RESOURCE computing. Sure Bob, go for it. Start a thread on low resource computing and I'll join in. > With efforts such as LTSP/K12LTSP Funny you should mention that. Did you know that a BL1 installation (taking less than 20mb of HD space) can be used as a terminal for this? >I think non-BL Linux discussion is still allowed, no? Sure Bob, feel free to talk about any low-resource Linux. > it's clear that upgrading/replacing a SINGLE machine may > help keep multiple other low-resource systems afloat. I definitely like this idea (particularly in the school context). Instead of the school ditching all their old PCs and installing totally new hardware, they turn all the old PCs into terminals (at no cost) and buy one good computer to serve them. > I don't feel a traitor to the cause (whatever that is) > for using newer (too new?) hardware in addition though. Use what you like. I just don't want to hear about it if it is non-survPC. > There's no list requirement that users use SurvPCs EXCLUSIVELY, Of course not. As I said before, meat-eaters are welcome to discuss vegetarian recipes as long as they behave. > > Why should I pay three-hours salary to upgrade a survPC from > > 8mb RAM to 16mb when > > That's why I posted a link to upgrade an old system to 16MB RAM > for $16US + S&H. $16US + S&H *is* three-hours salary here. In fact in some countries (where survPCs are widely used), it is a whole days salary. > Are we supposed to validate every item in terms of YOUR > specific geographic location and/or salary? No, what you are suppose to do is recognize that discussions of survPCs are especially relevant to people who are not as affluent as you. > If you don't find it cheap (did you bother to find out?) Why would I bother to find out? I never wanted that 16mb in the first place. This thread began when I said I was targeting BL2 at 8mb RAM. Somebody then jumped in (was it you Bob?) and said that I should be aiming at 16mb RAM and the discussion spiralled from there. > then by all means, use another source. I was never looking for a source. > But do remember this is a list subscribed to by users > world-wide, some of whom may find that source convenient > and/or reasonably cost-effective Was *anybody* looking for a source for 4mb 30pin SIMMs? I think not. > But you're setting quite a demanding list of requirements > for posting info on "your" list: I never said your message shouldn't have been posted. You are very welcome to post information on where to find SIMMs for old computers. My only response was to say that I would not spend that much money upgrading an old 486 from 8mb to 16mb. > Mustn't be "too (brand) new", Of course not. This is a survPC list. > So what is the right answer? $5, free postage and in your > immediate neighborhood? I never wanted those SIMMs. Nobody did. > Sheesh. Sheesh indeed. > As to the prices charged for postage and hardware, > bitch at the vendors. Why would I bitch at the vendors? I'm not in the market for their product. > Although I'd rather have stuff given and delivered to me > for free, I hardly feel this is some sort of entitlement. Good for you Bob. Nothing worse than a social parasite. > OK, I officially forward the motion to rename the list to > "CrotchetyOldPC". Actually I agree that the name should be changed. Since most of you guys have non-survivor hardware (and insist on talking about it), I think the new name should be: PCchat. Cheers, Steven To unsubscribe from SURVPC send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe SURVPC in the body of the message. Also, trim this footer from any quoted replies. More info can be found at; http://www.softcon.com/archives/SURVPC.html
