Dear Edward, In general, my personal attraction to biofuel is the independance it gives those who have the will and resources to make it, as compared to its potential as a widespread (global) replacement for gasoline or diesel, which I personally believe is limited.
With this in mind, what appeals to me as a consumer of biofuel technology, are processes and products that enable rather than bind. Although I'd prefer to build my own equipment and systems, I'm not obsessed with reinventing the wheel and if some company can provide me with superior equipment at a reasonable cost, I'll consider purchasing it. But what I don't want is to lock myself into an arrangement where I'm dependant upon that same vendor for an ongoing supply of anything much less an additive which may be reasonably produced by myself. What I am getting at is this: Why would I use your NADI additive when I can create my own? Why would I put myself in a position where I'm eternally dependant upon a supplier of that product? Such dependance grates me. This isn't to say that many of the products your company provides are not wanted and needed for they nodoubt are. As to the NADI additive itself, you said it is "largely composed" of "renewable and natural products." This statement implies that some of its ingredients are not renewable or not natural. What are these other ingredients? Is this product patented and if so what is the patent number? Over the past several months, I've appreciated your contributions to this forum and I hope you will not interpret my questions or comments as offensive, for they are not meant to be. Ted Swarts Kelowna, British Columbia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neoteric Biofuels Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: NADI and Komet was Safety and the environment (waswashing machine and biodiesel) > Hi - > > It is not magic, it is at least and probably more "natural" than biodiesel > (with its usual 20% or so usually natural gas-derived methanol 'content'), > and it is made by a reputable, long-established company that also makes > methyl ester and many other fuel and lubricant products including many from > renewable resources. > > The final product is 80% vegoil (rapeseed oil, normally), and 20% of the > NADI additive, which is largely composed, itself, of renewable and natural > products. > > Yes, we sell it, and the presses, etc. The integrated whole is what may make > it worthwhile in a given region, that is to say, making cold pressed oils, > contract pressing, sales of a wide range of specialty oils to food, > nutraceutical, pharmaceutical markets, and sale or feeding of the presscake > to livessotck (adding value, and presscake which is of higher value than > that from solvent extraction facilities, since there is more oil left in it > and it also has come from a cold press). > > It is an interesting option for some regions, and definitely something a bit > different than trying to purify glycerine and sell it, or recover methanol, > worry about waste disposal, etc. > > Is it competitive with diesel or biodiesel? That depends on the market and > the prices of those products. In the US and Canada, it is more than > commercial biodiesel, but the price come down at some point. In other > markets, it may or may not be competitive,have to check individually. > > It does allow the producer to make an alternative, mostly "natural" diesel > fuel or additive for diesel fuel without producing biodiesel (ie, no > methanol, no glycerine, no sodium methoxide, etc.) by simple mechanical > mixing with local (80%) oil. Some oils may or may not be suitable, and we'd > have to check on them individually if not rapeseed oil. > > Please do contact me off list by emailing directly, I only wanted to > mention it in the context of the discussion on safety concerns, methanol, > etc. > > Regards, > > Edward Beggs > www.biofuels.ca > > > > > > > From: Manolo Rolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:53:21 +0000 > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [biofuel] Re: NADI and Komet was Safety and the environment (was > > washing machine and biodiesel) > > > > :-0 > > > > sorry if it sounds a like a stupid question, and sorry if this > > question is not specific enough but ... > > > > witch kind of magic stuff is that? > > you sell it? > > is real "natural" diesel? > > > > sorry but i couldn't wait without asking > > > > thanks > > > > Manuel Rolan > > Valencia, Spain > > > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! 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