Bill and Todd; Have you considered selling BioDiesel as a fuel additive only. Does this not exempt you from many of the troubling issues?
<snip> >Bill, > >While you have hit upon what might appear to be a reasonable >loophole in the matter, there remain several points of >contention. > >For a moment consider that I might be a very bitter commercial >biodiesel manufacturer, extremely angry at the manner in which >the NBB/soy councils are attempting to get their checkoff dollars >back after they've already spent them once. Surely you don't >believe that someone such as this would let a manufacturing >scenario such as you present go unchallenged, simply because the >state or municipality is road tax exempt? > >Consider the EPA's definition of "in commerce" as being on-road >use. Not brief use of agriculturally exempt dyed fuel, such as >hauling a tractor to a harvest site, but non-dyed commercial >grade fuel. It's the exact same fuel whether it's taxed or not >and whether it's in a state DOT truck, a privately owned tractor >trailer or a Volkswagen Golf. > >Also consider for a moment from where these tax exempt entities >have been previously accessing their fuel - outside vendors. >There are arenas full of ordinances and statutes governing the >acquisition of supplies and competing with commercial interests. > >Now try and explain to the miffed commercial biodiesel producer >why the state or municipality should be exempt from the same >Health Affects data requirements that he or she must adhere >to....Same roads. Same air. Same quality of emissions. Which >brings a soul directly to the off-road exemption, which will at >some point cease to exist due to the very same arguement. > >Too many lawyers, too many bureaucrats and too many people >serving self-interests inevitably screw up anything worthwhile. > >Todd Swearingen > >----- Original Message ----- >From: William Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:45 PM >Subject: Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method > > > > Todd- Early on in my ivestigation of biodiesel (relative to the >total time I > > have spent) I checked with the municipality here and found that >they are > > exempt from state and federal fuel taxes. Same for schools. My >question here > > is if a municipality would be required to register thier fuel >if they > > produce it themselves and use it to operate their own >equipment? I make the > > assumption that apart from the chemical inputs, there will be >no hazardous > > by-products. If chemicals which may be obtained on the open >market are > > properly handled, what other concern does the EPA have in this >matter? > > > > Bill C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > > > There is nothing to stop anyone from producing their own fuel >for > > > their own off-road use, save for local ordinances that may >apply. > > > And there may not be anything stopping anyone from producing > > > their own fuel for their own personal on road use, save for >the > > > IRS and state taxation departments relative to collection of >road > > > taxes and the EPA relative to registration of the fuel - > > > presuming they made the effort to be intentional pains in the > > > arse on the matter. > > > > > > But the moment a commercial manufacturer produces the first >drop > > > for use in commerce (road legal fuel), they have to buy >access to > > > Health Affects data, either by paying NBB fees, conducting >their > > > own studies or partnering with an entity that already has >legal > > > access to the data. > > > > > > That's pretty much the end of the story at the moment. And >pretty > > > much what scotches it for many people who would ordinarily >move > > > into higher volumes of manufacture within their own >communities. > > > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: William Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:50 PM > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method > > > > > > > > > > Todd- I don't know exactly what EPA and soybean councils >have > > > put on paper. > > > > I would be interested in seeing what legislation or rules > > > apply. Would > > > > appreciate directions to access that info (if available). >One > > > loophole I > > > > hope to exploit may be that I am proposing that entities >refine > > > their own > > > > fuel, not produce commercially. > > > > > > > > Bill C. > > > > > > > > .----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:24 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's rather a hopeful thought...that an Audobon/NBB >board > > > > > member could persuade the EPA and the soybean councils to > > > make a > > > > > loophole in the matrimonial papers they formulated in >order > > > to > > > > > accomodate micro-regional manufacture. > > > > > > > > > > Don't get me wrong. It would be wonderful if they would. >But > > > that > > > > > certainly hasn't been the stance of either up to this >point. > > > And > > > > > it's rather difficult to imagine that they could even if >they > > > > > wanted to, as the general rule in this country is "equal > > > > > protection under the law." > > > > > > > > > > Which also means equal enforcement, prosecution and > > > > > persecution.... meaning that the rules are to be applied > > > equally > > > > > to everyone and that exceptions are perceived as the > > > proverbial > > > > > pox - no matter how beneficial they prove. > > > > > > > > > > One can always hope. But if I were you, I would be > > > formulating a > > > > > backup plan well before I put all my eggs in that basket. > > > > > > > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: William Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:09 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [biofuel] First stage foolproof method > > > > > > > > > > <snip> _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? 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