Curiosity gives cause to the question....,

How may ways are there of looking at "dead?"

Todd Swearingen

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From: "murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002


> Andrew:
>
> I am replying to this second-hand because of a messup with my email
> program.
>
> >>1 death per 6546 in the USA
> >>     Vs
> >>1 death per 11304 in Australia
> >>
> >>This means that you are nearly twice as likely to die on the roads in
> >>the US as you are in Australia.
>
> By one way of looking at things.  Other ways are to look at the type
> of driving, or deaths per person-mile traveled, etc.
>
> >Why is this so? The answer can
> >>plainly be seen when you take into account the fact that Australia
> >>has compulsory seat-belt and motorcycle helmet laws and random
> >>breath testing with a limit, in most state of 0.05.
>
> So far as I'm aware the U.S. states generally have compulsory
> seat-belt and motorcycle helmet laws and various testing programs for
> alcohol including, for example, check-points set up during high-death
> holiday times.  These have been in place for quite some time now.
> Compulsory seat-belt laws came into play when I was a kid, 20 or 30
> years ago.  There may of course be difference in the laws, but I think
> you've got a somewhat different view of the laws here.
>
> >>         I am constantly amazed that some Americans claim that it
> >>"violates their constitutional rights" if legislation is brought in that
> >>enforces seat-belts/helmets and allows random breath testing. Using
> >>the above figures, it could be argued that nearly half of the people
> >>killed on US roads could be EASILY saved.
>
> I agree with the view that some Americans have sometimed had a
> somewhat warped view of their freedoms as they apply to driving
> enforcement laws.  For example, I do not think anyone has the right to
> drive drunk, that it's a stunning act of bad faith and disrespect for
> one's fellow man, and that it has become clear that the police are
> within their rights to watch out for drunk drivers, including
> check-points, given the shocking number who still do.
>
> >
> >>         To take it a step further, there is a large financial cost
> >>associated with a person dying in a vehicle crash, but there is a
> >>much larger cost associated with those people who survive the crash
> >>but suffer some form if incapacitation, or even a long rehabilitation
> >>period. If a person is permanently injured in a car crash and in turn
> >>needs life long care, then the costs are huge. I would guess that it
> >>would cost at least $50,000 per year to look after said injured person
> >>and if they happen to live for 40 years in this state,  that's $2M
> >>straight away. Also it is worth remembering that for every death on
> >>the roads, there are a lot of accidents which are severe, resulting is
> >>no deaths but long term injury.
>
> Interesting points.  One of the reasons I posted the article.  I think
> these matters are swept under the rug by our system of sort of not
> discussing the negative aspects of driving.
> >
> >>         So where does that leave us? Australia has a death rate on
> >>the roads that is constantly, except for a one year "blip". trending
> >>down whilst from my reading of the article, seems to be trending up.
> >>Isn't it time that the US took some action on these simple to
> >>introduce measures and stopped both the carnage and cost instead
> >>of waiting for "Robby the Robot" to drive them around ?
> >>
> >>         Regards,
> >>                 Andrew
>
> The U.S. has taken most of the measures you suggest, if I'm not
> mistaken.  Also, you have misrepresented and even perhaps grossly
> misrepresented my call for greater vehicle safety.
>
>
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