Frank Dungan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Before you throw up... Can you tell us the solution?Bio-fuel, wind, and solar are great starts on energy, but all combined are still a tiny drop in the bucket up against fossil fuels.∙ If the oil stops - we starve.∙ Ties to middle east oil are likely to drag us into WWIII (consult your Bible & nightly news for details).∙ Kyoto as it stands is nothing but a money and political power grab, I wouldn't support it either (and yes I have read it).∙ Hydrogen/fuel cell cars are the low hanging fruit here, we can possibly cut auto fuel usage by 30%-40% through efficiency.I remember the fuel crisis of the 70's that resulted minor long term changes.Seams to me we do need a short term and long term policy...∙ Short term, get as far away from the evils as possible (environmental, political, and economic).∙ Long term, exploit every energy source possible.I you have any viable real world solutions lets hear it.O-yes, I live in Kansas where people are fighting against wind farms (we are a high wind state) because it disrupts their view of the country side._______________________________________________-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Michael Redler
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 4:50 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bush wants to shift global warming debateOK, I've been a little preoccupied lately and haven't been able to contributions to recent discussions. However, one of Kieth's recent posts caught my attention.
Please allow me to vent.
...I'm quoting parts of Kieth's post in reverse order.
"My hope is -- and I think the hope of Tony Blair is -- to move
beyond the Kyoto debate and to collaborate on new technologies that
will enable the United States and other countries to diversify away
from fossil fuels so that the air will be cleaner and that we have
the economic and national security that comes from less dependence on
foreign sources of oil," Bush said.
"Bush spoke of his administration's investment of $20 billion (16.55
billion euros) in developing hydrogen-powered vehicles, zero-emission
power stations and other technology."Bush's position shifts like the tide -- like a tide resulting from global warming and which might swallow Bangladesh.
He starts out with "...away from fossil fuels...", then differentiates who's fossil fuels with "...less dependence on foreign sources of oil". Finally, (In an earlier statement) he spoke of his administrations $20 billion investment in hydrogen powered vehicles, demonstrating his steadfast commitment to oil interests.He wants to project concern toward (only the most uneducated) environmentalists with a technology that addresses the storage of energy and not sustainable resources for conversion. At the same time, he chooses a cause which the oil industry can actively participate. Finally, a low emphasis on greenhouse gas emissions is an invitation for some companies to manufacture "green" products with no regard to the manufacturing processes and how it contributes to global warming -- thus, defeating the purpose.
I think I need to throw up now.
Mike
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