Ken Dunn wrote:

Interesting thought (basically the same reason that I gave up meat 6 years
ago), I am curious how many American meat-eaters would give up the habit if it
ever came down having your choice between meat or energy but not both.

The problem is not meat, per se, it's the manner in which beef, pork and poultry are being produced that creates such high resource strain. We could certainly thrive without fast food hamburgers and chicken, as humanity has done for a very long time. This doesn't have to be an "either / or" proposition.

In the past, some people on this list have asked legitimate questions such as: "What do I do with all the bull calves and roosters that are born on my ranch?" or, "What should I do with chickens and ducks that no longer lay eggs?"

The answer, obviously, is for someone to eat them. Perhaps the offal would be better used as dog food than "supplemental protein" for cattle and poultry. Maybe the bones could be ground up and applied to the soil again. Cow hide makes excellent leather for shoes and clothing. Chicken feathers make lovely pillow stuffing. We don't have to waste animal products to benefit from them.


Frankly, I can't imagine meat remaining a staple for much longer as it is just
not a sustainable food source.

In nearly every ecosystem on the planet (save for some very specialized ones) plants and animals live together. Eliminating animals from the equation will result in a different, but nonetheless unsustainable, paradigm. I don't eat meat, but my garden depends on composted bovine barn litter for its productivity. Recycling nutrient streams makes sense, eliminates the concept of "waste", and promotes tilth.

 And we didn't discuss the water that is also
wasted, polluted and diverted in the process of raising animals for slaughter.
 The American obsession is cheese is another that just amazes me.  I wonder
what that price is a pound of cheddar would be were it not for farm and fuel
subsidies.

Water usage is a HUGE problem. In the western United States, agriculture requires far more water than any other single use. Farmers grow rice in California, where much of it evaporates in the field, but any suggestion that the state restructure its water rights will be met with fierce opposition from powerful agriculture lobbies. I suspect the system will have to collapse before any real reform is possible.

As for cheese, without subsidy it would probably be much more expensive than it is. My wife and I will spend our money on locally grown food even if it costs more, with the rationale that we neither smoke nor drink, so why not invest in health and support of our local farmers? Food remains very cheap in North America. My family spends about 10% of its monthly income on food, and if you came to dinner at our house, you'd realize before long that we eat very well!

Having written this, it seems to me that any increase in food prices will likely hit poorer people significantly harder than it would those who have been blessed with my level of prosperity. I believe that your argument against the current food production paradigm contains many valid points, but we need to be careful to replace what we have with something that actually works well to feed everyone.


robert luis rabello
"The Edge of Justice"
Adventure for Your Mind
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Ranger Supercharger Project Page
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