John Hayes wrote:

>>>>Is the source for this correct ? It might be good to cite the
>>>>source if we are going to assasinate not only a living person but
>>>>also a man's character. If you have the original source for this
>>>>information then maybe we should post it here to help clear this
>>>>up. Just a thought.......
>>>>
>>>>Clif
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>I JUST heard it on NPR!
>>>
>>>Here's the quote: 
>>>http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20050823-09170200-bc-us-robertson.xml
>>>      
>>>
>>I to sadly have heard the quote out of his own mouth. I have also
>>heard his contrite apology. Unfortunately we all say things "in the
>>moment" we later regret. Two things are true in this world......
>>There is a God ... And I am not Him. I cannot speak to another man's
>>salvation. It is regretable that men who are called "men of God"
>>still have some of the old nature in them. Fortunately the process of
>>sanctification is an ongoing process much like our process here to
>>find the perfect method creating good fuel. May Mr. Robertson
>>consider this episode part of his refining. Clif
>>    
>>
>
>Clif, you're still being an apologist for Robertson. First you question 
>the source and imply that his character is being assassinated, and now, 
>when faced with the statement straight from the horse's mouth, you 
>dissemble and imply that it's really ok because we're all just God's 
>imperfect creatures and it's alright because he said he was sorry.
>
>If Robertson is so sorry, why is he blantantly LYING about what he said?
>I thought "christians" of his ilk were all about taking personal
>responsibility? I find any "contrite apology" rather thin when only
>*yesterday* he was still claiming he was "misinterpreted". Why did he go 
>on the air yesterday and claim he never used the word assassinate when 
>Monday's video clearly shows he did?
>
>"Refining" my ass. The man is a lying hypocrite and you know it.
>
>jh
>
>
>  
>
>>August 24, 2005 Robertson Apologizes but Says He Was 'Misinterpreted'
>> By LAURIE GOODSTEIN
>>
>>The Christian broadcaster Pat Robertson issued a statement today
>>apologizing for his televised remarks calling for the assassination
>>of Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez.
>>
>>"Is it right to call for assassination?" he said in the statement.
>>"No, and I apologize for that statement. I spoke in frustration that
>>we should accommodate the man who thinks the U.S. is out to kill
>>him."
>>
>>But Mr. Robertson was far from apologetic on his television show
>>today, instead insisting that he had been been "misinterpreted" by
>>The Associated Press and that he had never used the word
>>"assassination."
>>
>>"I said our special forces should 'take him out.' 'Take him out'
>>could be a number of things, including kidnapping," Mr. Robertson
>>told his audience on the show "The 700 Club" today.
>>
>>The video from Monday's telecast, easily available on the internet,
>>shows Mr. Robertson saying of the Venezuelan president: "If he thinks
>>we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go
>>ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I
>>don't think any oil shipments will stop." Mr. Robertson went on at
>>length about Mr. Chávez, suggesting that "covert operatives" could
>>"do the job and then get it over with."
>>
>>Political and religious leaders continued to denounce Mr. Robertson
>>today. The World Evangelical Alliance issued a statement saying,
>>"Robertson does not speak for evangelical Christians. We believe in
>>justice and the protection of human rights of all people, including
>>the life of President Chavez."
>>
>>On Tuesday, Mr. Robertson's comments were denounced by both the State
>>Department and by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. In Caracas,
>>Mr. Robertson was criticized by the vice president of Venezuela, and
>>in Havana by President Fidel Castro.
>>    
>>
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I cannot provide any defense for his statements nor can I dispute the 
validity of your (jh) statements and assessment. Perhaps I have made so 
many mistakes personally that I am just slightly slower to pick up rocks 
than I used to be.
Anyway I am not an apologist for anyone, especially a grown man with an 
audience the size of Pat Robertson. If I sound like that then I 
"apologize" :).
As far as questioning the source that is just something I have learned 
over the years when reading something for the first time on the 
internet. I've found this attitude keeps me from making too many errors 
in judgment.
I do recall something from a book I recently read: "Be hard on the 
mistake and easy on the person." Maybe I should reexamine that statement 
in light of all of this.
Just so you know jh I'll continue to strive to be slow to pick up a rock 
....

What a good list. And to think I was trying to figure out how to 
construct my first biodiesel processor when I subscribed.  Oh well I 
guess a man is often called to arms when he least expects.

With warm, winsome regards,
Clif


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