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Well said Kenji and Zeke; I agree and I think the majority of what you are after Kenji is already written up on the J2F page. All that is needed is a parent document that references the various quality test documents or includes them. Correct me if I am wrong but can anyone confirm that if the methanol test passes, then the reprocess test becomes redundant? I haven't verified this. Currently I'm struggling with such poor feed stock that I can't get really complete reactions with the base only process. I should start doing acid base soon. Virgin oil works great of course but I don't want to spend the money to buy 30 liters of virgin oil just to see if anything will drop out after passing the methanol test. List experience would be a boon here folks...Also has anyone tried blending bad oils with better oils to get a mixture that titrates better? Is this a foolish notion? I need chemistry propeller heads to answer that one I suppose. Definitely as long as we continue using waste oils that vary in quality we need a really solid benchmark for quality testing but I believe we already have it! Another issue besides unreacted components in fue which is related to fuel quality is water content (dissolved water that is -ppm levels) and temperature effects. I have started documenting trials with a series of sample vials that contain various mixtures of BD and petroleum diesel (winter diesel recently obtained from the industry) ranging from 2% BD up to 80%. I have them out on my window sill and take pics at various outdoor temperatures. The overall quality document should speak to this issue of cold temperature use I think. I will share my findings with you if you want to include it. Joe Kenji James Fuse wrote: This was what I was getting at, Zeke, but you've put it much more eloquently and succinctly.I agree that this biofuels list would make a great self-certification group, especially as Canadians tend to have this built-in inferiority complex; and since this list is so international, it would have clout up here. Kenji On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Zeke Yewdall wrote:There is a lot of power in self-certification from trade groups (which the biofuels list essentially is for biodiesel, even if we don't think of ourselves that way). A relevant example from the PV industry. Colorado has had an active trade group that has an examination, continuing ed, and training process in order to maintain certification for designing and installing PV systems. When the utility was required to install a couple of MW of PV after losing a public vote last year, the entity they eventually started negotiating with was our trade group. And guess whose web page they refer people to to find an installer. Compare this to Oregon, where there was no grass routes certification process. There, the state legislature I believe, decided, after some shoddy systems going in, that only licensed electricians could touch PV modules. Technically, anyone else is not even allowed to take them out of the box. However, these licensed electricians have no requirement to know a thing about PV, and if they go by traditional high voltage wiring practices, could actually made a pretty dangerous system too. Sounds sort of like the biodiesel industry, where homebrewers produce high quality product (and some don't...), and some commercial firms produce crap. But you know who the government is going to put quality control to if they end of legislating something before we show that we are policing ourselves. On 2/22/06, Kenji James Fuse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |
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