I think the commercial process was the Katadyne process. You pull an arc
between two silver electrodes under distilled water and filter the result since
you will have a mix of sizes. I think they use something around 30 to 60 volts.
High amperage as you want a plasma. When it goes out you restrike.
Kirk
"D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Joe,
I would bring the oven to a shop that routinely repairs them to have that
capacitor discharged safely. The thing with
using the oven's electronics (no magnetron needed) was the very high rate of
production of CS. Also, it is a higher use of the oven as they do change the
characteristics of protein into something dangerous, i.e., carcinogenic. My
wife thinks they're a godsend. I can't convince her of their intrinsic danger.
I've told her that when the damn thing goes bad that I am not replacing it.
Myself, I don't use it, even for heating water, since it changes the structure
of the water. The microwave
oven is another modern marvel that has lessened life.
If CS is made with distilled water in a constant current device using four
nines (99.99%) or better pure silver, it will be safe to consume. I use it to
stop the progression of periodontal disease. I have a bad case of it. Also am
using ozonated
water. I have no problem with killing of friendly gut flora, but I do take a
good probiotic to hedge my bets.
Peace, D. Mindock
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe Street
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Convert your Microwave oven to make Colloidal Silver
OMG please don't do this!
The capacitor in a microwave oven contains several joules of energy! This is
sufficient to kill you and has done to more than one unsuspecting soul who has
decided to tinker around inside the microwave oven. The article below even
goes to the extent of warning you to discharge the cap before doing any
assembly work but then it goes on at the end in bold red saying the danger is
not in operating the beast but in its construction. It doesn't say
anythingabout how you are supposed to discharge the cap before you try to
remove the electrode from the jar!
Trust me colloidal siver can be easily made using voltage as low as 20 volts
and with current limiting. It will take a little longer (15 minutes) to make a
batch ( I do half a litre at a time) but current limiting is important because
it keeps particle size down in the low nanometer range where it needs to be in
order to make a good colloid. I use a little wall wart type transformer for
this. Half a litre IS high volume. Considering that the most effective way to
use the stuff is to put it in a nasal sprayer and use it directly on ther
mucous linings at THE FIRST SIGN of a sore throat ( not effective at later
stages) and you are using perhaps 1ml at a time, half a litre will last your
entire family a year or more. DON'T drink the stuff unless you want to kill
off beneficial bacteria in your GI tract. Pink eye is easily and quickly cured
with repeated misting of the open eye, but again it is working on contact.
There are many other uses for the stuff which I won't
get into but it is basically a powerful anit-bacterial which works on contact
against single celled organisms.
The internals of microwave ovens are extremely unforgiving and even for the
initiated there is no room for error or absent mindedness.
Joe
D. Mindock wrote:
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High-Volume Colloidal Silver Maker
You want a plague-ready machine that'll make about 40 quarts of strong
Colloidal Silver an hour, that you can easily build in an hour for about $38??
I've built many now for people and I'll tell you how to make yours.
This is about the simplest colloidal silver maker you could build. The unit
makes 1 liter of roughly 40 PPM CS in 1.5 minutes or less using reverse osmosis
water; with this kind of power, continuous production is possible with a
spaghetti tube adding and removing water at a trickle. The primarily ionic
silver it produces has saved lives, write-offs sent home by the hospital to
die. As the old Chinese saying goes, "Those who say it can't be done should not
interrupt the one who is doing it."
I have re-wired a microwave oven because it gives more than adequate power -
about 3600 volts pulsed DC current - to make batches very quickly. I use a 9999
fine, 1 oz silver wafer rolled-out to 5.25 inches long and 1.25 wide for the
electrode. This size for the high current allows reduced power DENSITY. The
electrodes are spaced parallel for a wide-mouth jar, about 2.25 inches apart,
the water giving ample RESISTANCE to the current. There is no current-limiting
needed and all the microwave's safeties still work. It won't operate with the
door open.
There are 2 insulated wires going to the magnetron. When you disconnect the
magnetron (impeller) you'll only be using the heavier (main) wire from the
capacitor; the silver electrode in the jar of CS you'e brewing usually goes to
chassis ground and the wire electrode, which can be copper or even iron, goes
to the main capacitor wire. If you're not running 120 volts the wiring inside
may be a bit different.
I'm not an electrician but I found bypassing the magnetron remarkably easy to
do. Get someone a bit adept at the job and make sure (s)he bleeds the
capacitor, which contains LETHAL VOLTAGE. Space the electrodes parallel by
making holes in a plastic yogurt lid for the top and plastic paddle with holes
the same distance apart at the bottom; at that voltage you have to ensure the
electrodes never touch. Using an awl or a nail, bash a hole through the light
perforations in the box cavity and thread the wire through from the CS maker in
the oven cavity to the feed circuit.
Make sure the wire is short enough to make it impossible for some goof to
operate the unit with the electrodes outside the box!
(Hint: the smaller microwave ovens can be put on their side so you can get a
decent sized jar inside)
The first CS maker done this way will take perhaps an hour, the rest, 20
minutes, and makes the old (free?) microwave into a much more noble device than
it was even when it was new. The safeties and timer still work and again, it
only operates when the door is shut. Total cost, a bit of high-voltage wire and
the one-ounce rolled-out silver ingot, is under about $40 CDN, and I used
expensive copper-core spark plug wires for the high-voltage part.
The CS remains clear (not yellow, not cloudy) for many months unless it's
somehow tainted. If I make it any stronger it can trigger easily if you stick a
finger in for example, and it WILL plate the inside of the jar with silver at
the concentration I make it at. Keep it clean ;)
DISCLAIMER: Don't ask for a diagram. If you need a diagram for this you
shouldn't be in there. Get a knowledgeable friend to do it. Keep in mind that
the dangerous part is in the construction, not the use of the beast, and be
stupid at your own risk.
That being said, copyright waived; go ahead and circulate this note.
Duncan Crow HOME
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