Jeff,

Just to clarify, I wasn't implying, I was stating and repeat:

Sound-audio support is currently a mozilla SVG1.1 bug:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=334920

This is because foreignObject support is part of SVG1.1 and claimed  
by mozilla.
however foreignObject embed-object support is comprehensively broken.

In case of complete mozilla SVG developer obtuseness as currently  
available in bucket loads: it is an accessibility issue, a usability  
issue and if commonsense and commercial realism aren't enough an  
enhancement request as well. However they know best... "audio will  
irritate most people"

Naturally there are a host of alternative ways to support sound,  
safari webkit, ie-asv, and opera all chose different ones.
mozilla remains the only popular svg UA without a way to play audio  
in svg.

As you can tell we have a thriving working relationship :-)

cheers

Jonathan Chetwynd



On 8 Sep 2006, at 20:35, Jeff Schiller wrote:

Jonathan,

I agree, sound/audio is a sorely lacking component of the online web
experience, I guess because maybe no one had proposed an open
standard for audio/sound until lately (HTML5), so Netscape had some
proprietary way, so does Flash, etc.

Sound/audio is something outside the scope of SVG 1.1, and Mozilla is
currently targeting SVG 1.1 so you can't really equate this as a "SVG
bug" (not saying you were implying that, I'm just clarifying for
everyone). SVGT 1.2 does contain support for sound, video, etc so we
may see something if SVG 1.2 becomes the defacto standard one day.

However, outside of the SVG realm, Opera has decided to be the first
browser (as far as I'm aware) to implement the Sound/Audio interface
proposed by the WHATWG's HTML5 standard (also called Web Applications
1.0). Though this interface is relatively crude, it does allow you
to do simple things like looping music and triggering sound on events.

Regards,
Jeff

--- In [email protected], Jonathan Chetwynd
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Jon,
 >
 > among other significant outstanding bugs that mozilla/firefox is
 > being really slow to resolve is the issue of audio or sound.
 >
 > Aywk adobe had sound support from the start as does flash. in fact
 > many authors use flash solely to provide audio on webpages.
 >
 > I just wondered whether you had considered this issue and whether
you
 > felt it had relevance.
 >
 > cheers
 >
 > Jonathan Chetwynd
 >
 >
 > >> especially given the Mozilla/Firefox support for HTML+SVG
 >






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