----- Original Message ----
> From: Andreas Fink <[email protected]>
> > well, the Docsis 3.0 CMTS hardware is quite expensive,
> > if not saying dramatically expensive.
>
> > Then, the Docsis provisioning software is also quite expensive,
>
> I guess you simply bought a dead end solution. Good hardware vendors supply
> IPv6
> out of the box or at least with firmware upgrades. There's no reason to be
> expensive
I haven't bought anything, I just know the Docsis technology market.
The provisioning software is generally not v6-ready, and the
hardware generally needs expensive upgrade.
> > in DSL market, it's even worse: the Broadband Forum has not released yet any
> > ipv6 related document...
>
> Who cares what the broadband forum says. We're in a IP world. There's 100's
> of
> RFC's documenting IPv6. I personally run IPv6 natively over a SHDSL link and
> it
> just works. As SHDSL shares the same basic ATM structure underneath like
> ADSL, I
> don't see why anyone could NOT do IPv6 if he just tries hard enough. IPv6 is
> at
> the end not that different to IPv4. Even with PPP it should work as PPP
> encapsulates link frames, not IP packets so you can easily stuff IPv6 packets
> into PPP.
The fact that Andreas or Tonnere is able to configure ipv6 at home does not
create a business case. Go look at your nearest Interdiscount or Fust shop --
how many of the consumer routers/firewalls/modems would support ipv6?
How many of the shop salesmen would ever hear such word?
> Who cares what the broadband forum says.
any ISP with more than few thousand xDSL customers does. You know, they are
lazy
enough to build something that does not have a standard supported by vendor
majority.
Besides, even if they start offering v6 today, users will not buy it, because
of that
Interdiscount/Fust issue. Also most windows PCs and home servers would need
some
tuning for v6.
So, give it another 4-5 years, it's coming, but not as fast as you'd like it to
:)
> > apart from that, yes, the engineers are usually lazy :-)
>
> Its also a management issue. in USA IPv6 is not that common simply because
> everyone can get tons of IPv4 addresses too easy (at least in the past).
> But you gotta start sometime. And the time is now. Everyone supports IPv6
> these
> day and personally I would not choose a BGP4 uplink which does NOT suport
> IPv6
> (we actually have thrown a IPv4 provider out just recently and replace it
> with a
> IPv6 capable one).
it's purely an economy issue. Big ISPs will not invest into
something that the end-users don't require on massive scale. Those home
end-users
who have no idea what BGP or PPP means. They just connect their computers into
the
wall sockets and expect them to work.
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