On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 15:07:00 +0200, Mickey Coggins wrote:
> I think this is a vestige of the old days where you connected
> to your ISP via dialup, blasted the mail as fast as possible 
> to your ISP's mail server, and then let that mail server slowly
> deliver the mail to the final destinations.  Today, with 
At that time the internet was not polluted by abusers... on our system
that received about 20k mails a day I get about 2k via direct delivery
from dun and adsl/cable accounts... 95% UCE; but there's a large number
of hosts that are not RFC1912 compliant - so the number of unknown hosts
is quite high ( I guess 40% ) - while a lot of UCE originates from those
hosts there is also a big number of companies that don't follow that
RFC, so legit mail gets rejected (avoidable if they were using the MTA
of the ISP)

> "always-on" connections, sending mail to the ISP first does not
> really add a lot of value, IMHO, and in fact adds both another
well, the problem is that customers make more often faults in their MTAs
than an ISP - And the ISP can't do much about it... so forcing the
customer to use the ISPs MTA is more a kind of quality assurance.

> possible failure point, and another point of wiretapping.
I don't know a real ISP using Exchange ;)... and due "recent" event's
the world (switzerland )is in panic of _getting_ wiretapped... if you fear the line is
wiretapped use TLS/SSL, if you fear the MTA is wiretapped use GPG, if you
fear your Key is compromised use a Picture.... 
But privacy and security is not a concern of most users, if it were
hotmail would have to change its EULA... or not used at all....

my 2c
Regards
Philipp

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