* Kamer, Andreas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, I don't know what the IT apprenticeship is worth exactly, but
It depends on two factors: * the apprentice * the company offering the apprenticeship People have different ways to learn things, and different ways to teach things. There are people who like to learn on their own, with occasional help from others. But there are also people who can learn better/faster when they get examples, jobs, things to work out, and people that teach them on topic or the other. Iam still in an apprenticeship as 'Telematiker'. This job isn't fixed on IT, it consists mostly of telephony and installation (as in: real work for real men), and to a small part IT. I've been busy with IT stuff the last two years, and had to do everything on my own, with occasional help from people i knew (but not from inside the company). I did lots of mistakes, but i also learned many things. For me, this was a really cool way to learn things. While i had some 80hr weeks (which is probably illegal when taking an apprenticeship), i didnt have feel like quitting the job. Iam quite sure that not everyone likes this way to learn things this way, and would prefer to get a real education. Its based entirely upon luck, if apprentice and company give a good match or not. A friend of mine is taking an IT apprenticeship at the UBS. I don't think i could ever work/learn in such an environment, but he seems to be doing fine. > for sure it gives you a basic but broad knowledge about almost the > whole IT area (of course without really specializing on a certain > area). I doubt that this is true. Someone working for a small KMU with 5 people that does it services will have a vastly different set of knowledge from someone who worked at UBS, Cablecom, or whatever. > So this is definitively not comparable to certificates like 'PC > Supporter SIZ'. Not in this way. But if somebody has completed an IT apprenticeship, you don't if he is `good'. Same goes for somebody who did an 'PC Support SIZ'. I know lots of people with an finished it apprenticeship that aren't really good with computers. Some of them changed class of business right after finishing their apprenticeship. Some stayed with a minimum wage. There also people which took an IT apprenticeship just because they like to play counterstrike (this isn't that much exagerrated). It would be same with people who learn 'Automechaniker' just because they like to drive cars. _______________________________________________ swinog mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.init7.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
