Hello Stefan
BUT most teachers ran away from "real industry" many years ago. So they dont have any relation to what the industry is today. As an IT specialist, one have to be up to date (IMHO).
You are more or less right on these points, but I hope there are still some teachers (the so-called "Lehrer im Nebenamt") which are working the majority of their time in the real world and only give lesson a view hours a week. That's the teachers you learn the most interessting things from!
- Do a "Basislehrjahr".I'm taking this way of apprenticeship, the Basislehrjahr. I dont know how it
looks in Canton of Zurich, but in Zug they realised that Basislehrjahr was a
misstake (it has been in kinda beta-phase the last 3 Years).
Well, I am not aware of the current status of "Basislehrjahr" in ZH but if your are interested drop me a line off-list and I'll ask one of the initiators of this project.
Now they going to get rid of it and "creating" a new model called "Modularausbildung". (The apprentice has the choice of different modules)
Actually this modularizing is taking place over all models of the apprenticeship. The idea is to make the apprentice work the same way like the further education is already. If you take a look at the way how the education for "Informatiker FA" and "Eidg. dipl. Informatiker" works you will see quite some parallels. :) They have suceeded this change in paradigms somewhen in the last two years.
We had "Vorgezogene Teilabschlusspr�fungen" last summer. The average marks over 3 Tests and 3 classes was 3.3. Nobody can tell me that it's only the students fault. Many things go wrong at school. Sure, it may be that students are lazier than yesterday. But it's not only the students fault.
This sounds pretty much like your teachers missed some topics on the leaning plan or were not able to make you understand the stuff. This is quite unfortunate for the students and I am sorry for you, but tell me one thing: how are the grades spread over the measurement? I mean is it 90% at 3.3 or is it more like 10% at 2.5 (which AFIAK means not passed) and 40% at 4.0? And which parts of the LAP were taken? BA, BK and AB?
Look, in the so called "Basislehrjahr" you have IT lessons the first 2 Years, then 2 Years without any IT lesson and then you have your final exams. That can't work.
Well, IMO this depends on the apprentice and how the exams are taken. If you can take the school-part of the LAP when finishing the school (like your "Teilabschlusspr�fing" I guess) this should work. If you have to take all the test at the end (like "normal" apprentices) it will be quite hard to refresh the learned stuff.
I fully agree if you say the apprentices having a "normal" apprenticeship have a better mix of school and real world but the concept of Basislehrjahr should IMO work out as well if (and only if) the industry is accepting the apprentices going this way. And as I wrote this was a requirement of the industry but I have to admit I have more and more the feeling that exactly the guys who cried out for this idea are now declining applications from students finishing Basislehrjahr. :(
Maybe the next "Modell" is better. I hope so. Otherwise the IT apprenticeship hasn't any future.
Actually this "next modell" is not really changing that much. There will still be these three (or maybe soon only two) ways to become an Informatiker but instead of having a fixed plan in what order you have to take your lessons you can choose it more freely for yourself (or it's chosen for you by your employer) when and _where_ you take your modules. This means you can choose your education provider which will hopefully improve the quality of the modules because of the competitive situation on the market.
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