OK, just realised that I wan't going to send the original email, I had another 
version which I then deleted. This was just me writing things as I was reading 
the spec, much of which I then thought about some more and realised there was a 
reason for some of it. 

Oops.

Oh well too late now. I'll try and re-phrase it tomorrow. 

A simple specification is really hard to write and I have much respect for 
Richard for even trying. 

My points below still stand.

Cheers

Dave T


On 14 Mar 2011, at 19:58, David Tarrant wrote:

> 
>> 
>> Thanks for the comments so far, they have been really useful.  Any more 
>> comments (either in agreement of the spec, or in disagreement with it) would 
>> be appreciated.  We hope to get the team of 7 project developers starting to 
>> implement this soon once the review has been finished.  The implementation 
>> experience will no doubt then highlight the need for some more changes.
> 
> Please bear in mind that I am one of those members and have been implementing 
> prototypes for some while. This has informed my comments greatly however the 
> current spec is highly confusing and a mash of many of the user requirements 
> which have been raised up to this point. 
> 
> I would therefore highly recommend that a community meeting between as many 
> available members is arranged to try and sort through the various use cases 
> and issues face to face before the spec becomes final. In it's current state 
> I can't see many clients, or servers being able to implement this within 
> their current limitations. 
> 
> There are many issues which I feel cannot be expressed fully and completely 
> in an email and what chances I have had to get together with Richard have 
> been fleeting and usually focussed on other issues. For this reason and many 
> others, my experiences have not been fed back properly. I hope that this can 
> be resolved in the near future as I feel this a hugely important step in 
> actually producing a usable and interoperable specification. 
> 
> I started revising the specification today to make it simpler and reflect my 
> own work. Perhaps this can be diff'd against the published specification and 
> discussed at such a meeting. 
> 
> I hope that time limitations are not forcing the project to complete quickly 
> at this point as this is a vital stage to try and get right. 
> 
> I am willing to travel somewhere soon if such a meeting can be arranged to 
> discuss this specification and work through the sticking points.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave T
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Stuart Lewis
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