Alas, on my Acer Android 4.4.2 tablet, after the basic install, the menu icon 
fails to respond to a tap. This one is more of a problem. I don't see the same 
problem on my Motorola Android 7.1.1 phone, so it may be something to do with 
the older Android version. There are still a lot of older Android devices out 
there, and they usually can't be upgraded to newer versions of Android OS by 
average users.


On 03/26/2018 08:11 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:
> I just added the older Android tablet to the test set, with a fresh install 
> to verify that the basic set installation worked. It did. :-) I also did a 
> fresh install on iOS, and that worked. So far, so good...
>
> On 03/26/2018 08:06 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:
>> Nice! Thank you, Troy!
>> One tiny detail I noticed was a quick display of NaN% done while starting a 
>> download. A conditional test for divide by zero might make that display look 
>> a little more professional. (It seems to do no harm this way, and few people 
>> would notice this, but I'm trained to pay attention to details.)
>>
>> I have loaded the new version on my iPhone, iPad, and Motorola Android 
>> phone, and will be checking them out. The new icon is an improvement.
>>
>> On 03/26/2018 07:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>> OK, new Bishop 1.0.6 build for iOS is available and matches Android. 
>>> BibleSync on iOS is very untested as I don't have a device.  I wouldn't
>>> be surprised if turning it on crashed the app... but it's there in some
>>> infantile state.
>>>
>>> Also figured out how to add an icon :)  It's not the greatest.  I used
>>> the same icon from Android as both the icon and splash screen.  It looks
>>> pretty bad on the simulator, but at least it's not the Cordova blockhead.
>>>
>>> https://crosswire.org/bishop/manifest.plist
>>>
>>> https://crosswire.org/bishop.ipa
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have a chance to try.
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/25/2018 06:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>> 1.0.6 has been pushed and includes:
>>>>
>>>> Better BibleSync support (thanks Karl!)
>>>>
>>>>     Allows on/off
>>>>
>>>>     New settings for BibleSync User Name and Passphrase
>>>>
>>>> Better Word Study support:
>>>>
>>>>     New setting to select Word Study module.
>>>>
>>>>     Any def modules work (previously was hardcoded to 'StrongsGreek' and
>>>> 'StrongsHebrew')
>>>>
>>>>     If either a Strongs Bible, Strongs Greek lex, or Strongs Hebrew lex
>>>> is not installed, now offers basic module set.  Not perfect, as it will
>>>> re-install modules in the basic set if they already exist, but not bad.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> These haven't been pushed to Apple yet, as the java-jni bindings were
>>>> updated for both of these main features and thus the Swift bindings need
>>>> to come up to sync.
>>>>
>>>> Feedback welcome.  Blessings for your Sunday,
>>>>
>>>> Troy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/23/2018 05:12 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:
>>>>> On 03/23/2018 10:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Regarding anything left before promoting general usage...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still think one flaw to fix before promoting the app for general use
>>>>>> is the warning when a module necessary for a function isn't installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a pretty simple change.  When someone selects "Verse Study" / "Word
>>>>>> Study" and no Strongs lexicon is installed or no Bible module with
>>>>>> Strongs is installed, then a popup suggesting to add the KJV +
>>>>>> StrongsGreek + StrongsHebrew can be shown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Along with this though, I'd like to let the user choose which Greek and
>>>>>> which Hebrew lexicon they would like to use.  I know the Xiphos repo has
>>>>>> something like StrongsRealGreek and StrongsRealHebrew and we also
>>>>>> reference the Liddell-Scott from SWORDWeb, which could be a choice for
>>>>>> online users... Probably others.  And with those selection options under
>>>>>> Settings, maybe we could add a Word Study Bible choice which let's a
>>>>>> user pick, say the KJV as their Strongs Bible for word studies, but
>>>>>> maybe they like to normally read a different Bible as their primary text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anway, the warning is a small change and I think will go a long way to
>>>>>> avoid support questions on "Why doesn't the Word Study tool work?!" and
>>>>>> adding the new Settings options kindof go along with that so I'd like to
>>>>>> get it all done in one release.
>>>>> Agreed, as long as those small changes are done promptly.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Observations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Search works consistently with eBible.org modules (unlike 
>>>>>>> PocketSword).
>>>>>> Regarding search, I had an Apple user say that search wasn't working for
>>>>>> him.  I haven't had a chance to look into it.  Have you been able to
>>>>>> search on Apple?
>>>>> Yes. Every search I tried worked, although I haven't yet try really 
>>>>> challenging stuff like searching for strings with nonroman scripts using 
>>>>> multiple diacritics.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Poetry 2nd lines are not indented, but it would be nice if they 
>>>>>>> were.
>>>>>> Curious.  I'll try to spend time to look.  Does the same module look OK
>>>>>> in any other SWORD frontend?
>>>>> I don't think so. I think poetry formatting and sometimes even prose 
>>>>> formatting is not one of Sword's strong points, right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * The app icon for Android is much nicer than the app icon for iOS. 
>>>>>>> (The latter looks more like a Minecraft monster head.)
>>>>>> :) I was so happy to finally build a working binary for iOS that I
>>>>>> haven't even though about how to choose the icon. :)  That's the default
>>>>>> Cordova icon.
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>>   * I like the way columns without a current chapter to display 
>>>>>> disappear, making a nice seamless way to display the Hebrew OT and Greek 
>>>>>> NT next to another Bible translation.
>>>>>> Yes, that's exactly how I use it for my morning readings.  I try to make
>>>>>> myself read Greek, but I'm not good enough for that to not be a
>>>>>> distraction from my devotions so having the English side by side with
>>>>>> the original language (Old or New Testament) was my primary goal for
>>>>>> reading mode-- for me personally.  My Hebrew is so worthless these days
>>>>>> that I've though about putting an LXX module as the 3rd selected Bible
>>>>>> so I always get an English / Greek diglot when reading. :)  I think this
>>>>>> should be nice for seminary students.
>>>>> Agreed. It should also come in handy for places like Papua New Guinea, 
>>>>> where it is likely than someone would like to have their own local 
>>>>> language, the trade language (Tok Pisin in most areas), and English 
>>>>> (taught in the schools) side by side. The local language Bible 
>>>>> translations are usually just a New Testament or less, so it is nice to 
>>>>> display it when it is available, but make more room for the other 2 
>>>>> languages when it is not.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>   * Support for display of Strong's numbers and visible linkage of 
>>>>>>> parallel translations and/or lexicons where the word stem matches would 
>>>>>>> be nice.
>>>>>> Yeah, that was hard to do word selects on the small screen, like we do
>>>>>> on SWORDWeb.  On SWORDWeb we show 3 levels of association: bold = all
>>>>>> words from the same stem, bold/italic = all words with the same stem and
>>>>>> exact morphology, bold/italic/underline = the exact same word between
>>>>>> two Bibles.  I am surprised how often, when I click a word, I see that
>>>>>> same word nearby in the chapter, but translated by a different English
>>>>>> word that I had no idea the author used the same word.  It has been
>>>>>> enlightening to discover running themes which had been previously masked
>>>>>> to me by translation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, Word Study was my mobile attempt to show Strongs information,
>>>>>> but we do lose this 'other occurrences nearby' feature.  For Word Study
>>>>>> to work, you'll need a Strongs Bible as your primary (KJV is best right
>>>>>> now. ESV2011 kindof works but I'm curious about the markup there as
>>>>>> results sometimes seem odd) and you'll need to be sure to have
>>>>>> StrongsGreek and StrongsHebrew modules also installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The app is pure JavaScript.  I'd love for you to hack up a prototype of
>>>>>> anything you envision.  I know you have dev skills ;)
>>>>> Yes, I have dev skills, but I have a very large number of other dev tasks 
>>>>> queued up for me to do, not to mention the Bible processing tasks and 
>>>>> communication and negotiation tasks. I haven't done much with JavaScript, 
>>>>> yet, compared to all of the C#, C++, C, Pascal, BASH, and (in ancient 
>>>>> history) BASIC coding I have done. It would probably take me a few weeks 
>>>>> (that I don't yet have) to get up to speed on JavaScript.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, thanks again, Troy. You are awesome!
>>>>>
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