You are welcome. 1.0.7 got farther on the old Android tablet. I was able to slide the menu out and change locations once. Then I tried to slide the menu out again, and it slid out, but it was just a blank, gray rectangle with no controls on it. :-(
On 03/26/2018 11:48 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > Thanks for testing on older devices, Michael, > > It's a wonder what doesn't work. I've fired up an old emulator and > think the log is clear now of errors. Please let me know how 1.0.7 > does. Just pushed to the store. > > > On 03/25/2018 05:22 PM, Michael Johnson wrote: >> Alas, on my Acer Android 4.4.2 tablet, after the basic install, the menu >> icon fails to respond to a tap. This one is more of a problem. I don't see >> the same problem on my Motorola Android 7.1.1 phone, so it may be something >> to do with the older Android version. There are still a lot of older Android >> devices out there, and they usually can't be upgraded to newer versions of >> Android OS by average users. >> >> >> On 03/26/2018 08:11 AM, Michael Johnson wrote: >>> I just added the older Android tablet to the test set, with a fresh install >>> to verify that the basic set installation worked. It did. :-) I also did a >>> fresh install on iOS, and that worked. So far, so good... >>> >>> On 03/26/2018 08:06 AM, Michael Johnson wrote: >>>> Nice! Thank you, Troy! >>>> One tiny detail I noticed was a quick display of NaN% done while starting >>>> a download. A conditional test for divide by zero might make that display >>>> look a little more professional. (It seems to do no harm this way, and few >>>> people would notice this, but I'm trained to pay attention to details.) >>>> >>>> I have loaded the new version on my iPhone, iPad, and Motorola Android >>>> phone, and will be checking them out. The new icon is an improvement. >>>> >>>> On 03/26/2018 07:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>>>> OK, new Bishop 1.0.6 build for iOS is available and matches Android. >>>>> BibleSync on iOS is very untested as I don't have a device. I wouldn't >>>>> be surprised if turning it on crashed the app... but it's there in some >>>>> infantile state. >>>>> >>>>> Also figured out how to add an icon :) It's not the greatest. I used >>>>> the same icon from Android as both the icon and splash screen. It looks >>>>> pretty bad on the simulator, but at least it's not the Cordova blockhead. >>>>> >>>>> https://crosswire.org/bishop/manifest.plist >>>>> >>>>> https://crosswire.org/bishop.ipa >>>>> >>>>> Let me know if you have a chance to try. >>>>> >>>>> Troy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 03/25/2018 06:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>>>>> 1.0.6 has been pushed and includes: >>>>>> >>>>>> Better BibleSync support (thanks Karl!) >>>>>> >>>>>> Allows on/off >>>>>> >>>>>> New settings for BibleSync User Name and Passphrase >>>>>> >>>>>> Better Word Study support: >>>>>> >>>>>> New setting to select Word Study module. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any def modules work (previously was hardcoded to 'StrongsGreek' and >>>>>> 'StrongsHebrew') >>>>>> >>>>>> If either a Strongs Bible, Strongs Greek lex, or Strongs Hebrew lex >>>>>> is not installed, now offers basic module set. Not perfect, as it will >>>>>> re-install modules in the basic set if they already exist, but not bad. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> These haven't been pushed to Apple yet, as the java-jni bindings were >>>>>> updated for both of these main features and thus the Swift bindings need >>>>>> to come up to sync. >>>>>> >>>>>> Feedback welcome. Blessings for your Sunday, >>>>>> >>>>>> Troy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/23/2018 05:12 AM, Michael Johnson wrote: >>>>>>> On 03/23/2018 10:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> Regarding anything left before promoting general usage... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I still think one flaw to fix before promoting the app for general use >>>>>>>> is the warning when a module necessary for a function isn't installed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's a pretty simple change. When someone selects "Verse Study" / >>>>>>>> "Word >>>>>>>> Study" and no Strongs lexicon is installed or no Bible module with >>>>>>>> Strongs is installed, then a popup suggesting to add the KJV + >>>>>>>> StrongsGreek + StrongsHebrew can be shown. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Along with this though, I'd like to let the user choose which Greek and >>>>>>>> which Hebrew lexicon they would like to use. I know the Xiphos repo >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> something like StrongsRealGreek and StrongsRealHebrew and we also >>>>>>>> reference the Liddell-Scott from SWORDWeb, which could be a choice for >>>>>>>> online users... Probably others. And with those selection options >>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>> Settings, maybe we could add a Word Study Bible choice which let's a >>>>>>>> user pick, say the KJV as their Strongs Bible for word studies, but >>>>>>>> maybe they like to normally read a different Bible as their primary >>>>>>>> text. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anway, the warning is a small change and I think will go a long way to >>>>>>>> avoid support questions on "Why doesn't the Word Study tool work?!" and >>>>>>>> adding the new Settings options kindof go along with that so I'd like >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> get it all done in one release. >>>>>>> Agreed, as long as those small changes are done promptly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Observations: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Search works consistently with eBible.org modules (unlike >>>>>>>>> PocketSword). >>>>>>>> Regarding search, I had an Apple user say that search wasn't working >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> him. I haven't had a chance to look into it. Have you been able to >>>>>>>> search on Apple? >>>>>>> Yes. Every search I tried worked, although I haven't yet try really >>>>>>> challenging stuff like searching for strings with nonroman scripts >>>>>>> using multiple diacritics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Poetry 2nd lines are not indented, but it would be nice if they >>>>>>>>> were. >>>>>>>> Curious. I'll try to spend time to look. Does the same module look OK >>>>>>>> in any other SWORD frontend? >>>>>>> I don't think so. I think poetry formatting and sometimes even prose >>>>>>> formatting is not one of Sword's strong points, right now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * The app icon for Android is much nicer than the app icon for iOS. >>>>>>>>> (The latter looks more like a Minecraft monster head.) >>>>>>>> :) I was so happy to finally build a working binary for iOS that I >>>>>>>> haven't even though about how to choose the icon. :) That's the >>>>>>>> default >>>>>>>> Cordova icon. >>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * I like the way columns without a current chapter to display >>>>>>>> disappear, making a nice seamless way to display the Hebrew OT and >>>>>>>> Greek NT next to another Bible translation. >>>>>>>> Yes, that's exactly how I use it for my morning readings. I try to >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> myself read Greek, but I'm not good enough for that to not be a >>>>>>>> distraction from my devotions so having the English side by side with >>>>>>>> the original language (Old or New Testament) was my primary goal for >>>>>>>> reading mode-- for me personally. My Hebrew is so worthless these days >>>>>>>> that I've though about putting an LXX module as the 3rd selected Bible >>>>>>>> so I always get an English / Greek diglot when reading. :) I think >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> should be nice for seminary students. >>>>>>> Agreed. It should also come in handy for places like Papua New Guinea, >>>>>>> where it is likely than someone would like to have their own local >>>>>>> language, the trade language (Tok Pisin in most areas), and English >>>>>>> (taught in the schools) side by side. The local language Bible >>>>>>> translations are usually just a New Testament or less, so it is nice to >>>>>>> display it when it is available, but make more room for the other 2 >>>>>>> languages when it is not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Support for display of Strong's numbers and visible linkage of >>>>>>>>> parallel translations and/or lexicons where the word stem matches >>>>>>>>> would be nice. >>>>>>>> Yeah, that was hard to do word selects on the small screen, like we do >>>>>>>> on SWORDWeb. On SWORDWeb we show 3 levels of association: bold = all >>>>>>>> words from the same stem, bold/italic = all words with the same stem >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> exact morphology, bold/italic/underline = the exact same word between >>>>>>>> two Bibles. I am surprised how often, when I click a word, I see that >>>>>>>> same word nearby in the chapter, but translated by a different English >>>>>>>> word that I had no idea the author used the same word. It has been >>>>>>>> enlightening to discover running themes which had been previously >>>>>>>> masked >>>>>>>> to me by translation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyway, Word Study was my mobile attempt to show Strongs information, >>>>>>>> but we do lose this 'other occurrences nearby' feature. For Word Study >>>>>>>> to work, you'll need a Strongs Bible as your primary (KJV is best right >>>>>>>> now. ESV2011 kindof works but I'm curious about the markup there as >>>>>>>> results sometimes seem odd) and you'll need to be sure to have >>>>>>>> StrongsGreek and StrongsHebrew modules also installed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The app is pure JavaScript. I'd love for you to hack up a prototype of >>>>>>>> anything you envision. I know you have dev skills ;) >>>>>>> Yes, I have dev skills, but I have a very large number of other dev >>>>>>> tasks queued up for me to do, not to mention the Bible processing tasks >>>>>>> and communication and negotiation tasks. I haven't done much with >>>>>>> JavaScript, yet, compared to all of the C#, C++, C, Pascal, BASH, and >>>>>>> (in ancient history) BASIC coding I have done. It would probably take >>>>>>> me a few weeks (that I don't yet have) to get up to speed on JavaScript. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, thanks again, Troy. 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