Hi, now this e-mail is great. This is what your first post to the list
should have been. I am honestly surprised anyone replied. I almost didn't
because I could not understand your point at all and I almost gave up. I
read it a few times and I was able to extract the point.

I think in the future you should try to be less verbose in your text and
just be explicit with what you want and what your problem is. We don't need
complex analogies and explanations. Just tell us what you want.

Thanks for the summary, they are all great suggestions and this stuff
is definitely in the works and will come with time.

- Jon

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Alexander Sergeyev <[email protected]>wrote:

> No offense indeed, Jon. I do realize the difficulties of cross-cultural
> communication. At least we try to bring the problem nearer and collaborate
> instead of blind arguing or being rude, that's great!
>
>
> To sum up what has been said:
>
> 1. Introduce framework terms with real-life analogies out of nature and
> mankind history.
>
> 2. Develop one more downloadable example based on hierarchy of mid-size
> project like da Vinci case which I dare say covers needs of most
> non-enterprise projects. And explicitly comment it on how to
> - add page
> - add folder
> - split markup and content
> - link without hard-coding
> - use Twig for inheritance
> - include 3rd party tools like SCSS or HAML for intermediate tasks
> - add common error pages
> - (optionally) add more languages so foreign users feel like at home
> visiting one's site
>
> Feel free to extend this list, but basics are the most important to date.
> Moreover, I'll be happy to help with translation all that narrative stuff
> into Russian.
>
>
>
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