The most easy thing to understand is something that doesn't need documentation and I believe that THIS is the point that BGhost is talking about."I don't want launch a rocket in 30 days, I want my gallery ready in 12 minutes..."
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:26, Thomas Rabaix <[email protected]>wrote: > Symfony has many components, each of them are : > > - easy to understand > - easy to configure > - very well documented > > Now, the only thing complicated is to know how all these components play > together. This is the tricky part, but symfony default configuration will be > fine for many projects. > > You just need to go further ... if you have already create/try to implement > a framework, you will see that symfony has all STABLE the pieces you need. > Try to use an IDE : netbeans or eclipse, these two IDE are great to navigate > across the code and understand it. > > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:04 PM, bghost <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Fabien, >> >> - With the introduction of the Doctrine ORM, number of parameters >> and configuration options are increased manifold. Therefore, the >> developer >> must first learn all about the Doctrine ORM. Is that good? Doctrine >> ORM >> already providing a fairly good possibilities and options without >> Symfony. >> >> - Symfony WEB forms are a bit too complicated and their relations >> with the rest of a Symfony application is often unclear. >> >> WBR, >> Ghost3D >> >> >> >> On Sep 18, 4:43 pm, Fabien Potencier <fabien.potenc...@symfony- >> project.com> wrote: >> > You say that symfony became too complicated, which implies it was not >> > before. >> > >> > Can you give us some examples of what became more complicated? That will >> > help us improve the framework. >> > >> > For instance, we have less and less configuration files. Since 1.0, we >> > removed a lot of them, and removed some parameters also. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Fabien >> > >> > -- >> > Fabien Potencier >> > Sensio CEO - symfony lead developer >> > sensiolabs.com | symfony-project.org | fabien.potencier.org >> > Tél: +33 1 40 99 80 80 >> > >> > bghost wrote: >> > >> > > First, I would like to say that Symfony framework is not too bad, >> > > because I follow its development from the first version. But I think >> > > it became too complicated because it is evident exaggeration >> > > with the introduction of countless parameters and configuration >> > > files in order to automate all possible tasks. This entails that the >> > > programmer spends more time dealing with the Symfony framework >> > > than with the real problem. >> > >> > > P.S. I did nothing special but just followed the Jobeet tutorial. >> > >> > > WBR, >> > > Ghost3D >> > >> > > On Sep 18, 4:24 pm, Sid Bachtiar <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >>> It is necessary to invest so much effort to do a relatively simple >> > >>> application. >> > >> If you're just learning Symfony, then yes of course you'll find it >> too >> > >> much effort. This is true with any other framework/technology. >> > >> > >> But for those of us who have invested our time in Symfony, we find >> > >> great leverage in using Symfony. >> > >> > >> So what is the relatively simple application you're trying to build? >> > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:58 AM, bghost <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >>> It is necessary to invest so much effort to do a relatively simple >> > >>> application. >> > >>> Productivity and profitability of such work is very questionable. >> > >>> So, Symfony - Goodbye >> > >> -- >> > >> Blue Horn Ltd - System Developmenthttp://bluehorn.co.nz >> >> > > > -- > Thomas Rabaix > http://rabaix.net > > > > -- Sidney G B Ferreira Desenvolvedor Web --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony users" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
