What I meant what the such things have been left to 3rd party tools and 
products by Sun. That should change. Monitoring and administrative tools are 
essential and should be robust out of the box.

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Octave J. Orgeron
Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant
Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com
E-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com
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----- Original Message ----
From: Ben Rockwood <b...@cuddletech.com>
To: Octave Orgeron <unixcons...@yahoo.com>
Cc: Jason King <ja...@ansipunx.net>; sysadmin-discuss@opensolaris.org; 
perf-disc...@opensolaris.org
Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 12:20:01 PM
Subject: Re: [sysadmin-discuss] [perf-discuss] Project Proposal: Improved 
Performance MIB for OpenSolaris

Octave Orgeron wrote:
> I think this would make a great project as monitoring for Solaris has pretty 
> much been left to 3rd party tools by Sun. That's okay in corporate 
> environments where people spend money on one tool for everything. However, if 
> Solaris/OpenSolaris came with all the MIBs out the box, that would probably 
> help everyone across the board. As to which community it should be run under, 
> the Observability Community might be appropriate. But I also think we should 
> participate and perhaps do a peer review and be a source of testing. The MIBs 
> should work with Net-SNMP, but we need folks to test them with other products 
> out there and show that it's re-usable. Doing that will earn a lot of street 
> credit and make this a key component going forward. 
>  

Sun has 3rd party monitoring tools? :)

I'm currently of the opinion that Solaris SNMP (SMA) is more of a risk
than advantage, and in the context of Zones totally useless.  Which is a
shame, given that so much work went into the SMA (NetSNMP) cutover. 
This is why I am for any improvements in its usefulness.

> On a side note, does anyone here use webmin on Solaris or OpenSolaris? I'm 
> curious if that is being maintained and enhanced. I haven't used it in a 
> while. But I think since we're on the topic of having good monitoring that we 
> need good management tools for SA's and NOC type of environments.
>  

We use it at Joyent in our Accelerator product and have contributed
quite a bit back to it as a result.

benr.



      
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