Folks:

        Audit trail time....and let's not forget that there may be a cascade
chain of syslog hosts that the message needs to transit that may not be time
synch'd....


     TRAVEL: At Scient SF as of 27th of Sept. -- Traveling often, no sched. yet

     Regards,

     b c++'ing u,

     %-) sjs

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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Douglas Granzow wrote:

 > 
 > 
 > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, d wrote:
 > 
 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] sez:
 > > > It's critically important that logs reflect the time events happened,
 > > > however most system clocks are wrong. So let's either build an xntp client
 > > > in the syslog server that atleast records the "real" time a message was
 > > > received.
 > > 
 > > While I'd be the first to agree that time is critical for any sort of
 > > auditing or security, do people agree that accurate time (let alone 
 > > specifying a specific format) should be part of a syslog specification?
 > > I'd initially vote against that as a design constraint, but I must 
 > > confess I haven't given it a great deal of thought.
 > 
 > The exact time an event occurred is difficult to nail down.  Which of
 > the following do you want to know:
 > 
 > 1. When an event actually occurred
 > 2. When the message was passed to syslog
 > 3. When syslog wrote the message to a destination (log file, device,
 > remote syslog, etc.)
 > 
 > I would imagine the answer is "all of the above".  You may be able to
 > compare these values to determine the time difference between multiple
 > servers; or another field could be added specifically indicating the time
 > difference.  In any case, syslog will need to have the ability to attach
 > multiple timestamps to each message for each syslog the message passes
 > through.
 > 
 > Doug Granzow ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 > Unix Security Engineer, Digex
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 > 

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