On 24/09/2015 12:56 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
I too have wanted to raise the level of consciousness about these
offices. There are many in Thailand but their tagging is not uniform
and that makes them difficult to find.
amenity=immigration_office might be a better choice IMO but either
would help the current situation.
office=immigration ?
There is already office=government ... but no sub tags! and the document
for office=administrative suggest that office=government is for state
government things. This is an American view.. the British do not do this
- they have a 'central government'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_the_United_Kingdom.
Perhaps
office=government
government=immigration ?
or
government:immigration=yes
would be better where the office functions are combined..
government:passport=yes
government:vehicle_licence=yes
etc...
The office=government is under represented in the OSM data base ..
perhaps because there are no sub tags to further identify what it is
used for.
As for the name tag, I think it best to defer to the standard OSM
practice which is to provide the name in the local language and use
the name:en tag for the translated variety. Here in Thailand there are
many nationalities beside English speakers that make use of these
offices, among them are large numbers of Burmese, Cambodians,
Germans, and Japanese.
+1
Cheers,
Dave
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:38 AM, johnw <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I’ve been wanting to make a amenity=immigration because usually
foreign residents (and only foreign residents) go to such
facilities - so local mappers are usually unaware of their
existence or importance.
-1 for amenity.
These are places where people apply for new visas, extensions to
existing visas, and change from one visa type to another. Usually
regional ones cover mostly visa extensions for residents, whereas
a main office would cover the gamut from people looking for asylum
to people applying for new visas to be come residents in some
manner for work or marriage.
Finding the regional offices in your host country can be very
difficult if there is a language barrier - sometimes they are in a
giant government complex, sometimes they are a standalone facility
- but they should be very clearly marked. My old office was hidden
on the 3rd floor of a non-descript building next to a clothing
shop. Almost no signage helped you find it, until you were in the
lobby of the building.
These facilities are *not* border control nor passport
applications offices - as they deal only with the foreign people
living in their area. They might be in the same complex, but often
times they are not, and warrant their own tag.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/36.32304/139.00155
This the building I have to visit in Japan for my residence visa
now. It is a small building run by the Justice Ministry, as the
program was recently transferred from customs to Justice (AFAIK).
They also have a small prisoner transfer center there, which gets
a rendered icon. This is the only office within 2 hours of travel
- so many thousands of foreigners have to come to this one office
every year or so from all over the region.
As an aside, I think we should suggest the name=* field to be the
defacto “foreign" language for the country, which would be English
for most of Asia (they standardize on english as a common
“foreign" language), which would be very helpful for the
foreigners having to visit there - as (in my case) no Japanese
citizen ever needs to visit nor care about the office (unless
married to a foreigner) - and the asian language scripts are often
unreadable to new foreign residents who are looking for the office
to visit.
The native language and others can of course be tagged as well,
but I think the facility should have it’s "foreign" language name
rendered first and foremost.
Javbw
On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:10 AM, Blake Girardot <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking through taginfo and the wiki, but I don't see a good
clear tag for immigrant/asylum/refugee "reception" centers.
These are usually government type facilities that process
immigrants and refugees.
Some are also holding facilities, and some are just government
offices.
They are separate and distinct from standard passport control or
border check points.
Any suggestions?
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