>it depends what "permit" actually means:

I don't see that as having any bearing on the present proposal. The tag
means only that a permit is required to access the object.

Whether such an instrument is difficult to get, must be paid for, must be
adjudicated before some governing body, or whether one has to jump up and
down 3 times, is IMHO irrelevant. Moreover, whether such a permit takes the
physical form of a document, a sticker, or a plastic embossed card, is also
irrelevant.

It merely means something special must be done before access is granted.
Subsidiary tags can flesh out the details of how it is obtained, whether
there's a fee involved, etc.

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com
> wrote:

>
>
> 2017-09-18 17:29 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny+...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I am told that access=permit is
>> the same thing as access=private (which, as far as I can determine, is
>> also no different from access=no). I accept that.
>>
>
>
> it depends what "permit" actually means:
>
> 1) can it be obtained by everybody meeting clearly defined, easy to comply
> (e.g. filling out a form with your name and intended time of stay) criteria
> (=you have a right, if the administration doesn't grant the permit
> nonetheless you meet the requirements, you could sue them),
>
> 2) or is it typically given to "everybody", but if they decide you don't
> get it you can't do anything.
>
> 3) Or is obtaining the permit linked to requisites which are found only in
> very few people (e.g. living in an area).
>
>
> The case 3 and maybe 2 could reasonably be approximated with private,
> while the first and maybe second would merit a new tag IMHO (cases 1 and 2
> could also have 2 tags: access=permit and another one stating whether you
> have a right to get the permit). I'm not sure about case 2.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
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