Folks, a permit is nothing more than a written form of permission. The OED defines permit as "an official document giving permission to do something". It doesn't imply anything other than that.
In my original post, I said I needed a way to tag a fishing pond located within a military zone so that sportsmen could know ahead of time that some sort of permission was needed before using the resource. It turns out that hunting and wood cutting are also allowed on this military reservation and for these activities too, a permit is required. The "permission" usually takes the physical form of a document one must possess when using the resource. Such permits are often only a formality, as it is in this case, and are available to the general public. Other times some money must be paid. In the end, one receives some sort of document, a permission document (aka permit) that allows them access to the pond or woodlot. Now, I hope I'm not complicating this whole question by stating that one also needs a State of Alaska fishing license before being allowed to fish in these ponds. In one sense this is also permission document but one that applies to the entire state of Alaska. However, such a license does not apply to any particular pond. Rather, it applies to all the ponds and waters in the entire state and that, to my mind at least, is what distinguishes the two permissions. The permit I'm talking about is merely an access permission. Perhaps that might be where some of the confusion is coming from. I hope I haven't muddied the waters too much by bringing that up. On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <[email protected] > wrote: > > > 2017-09-21 14:40 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale <[email protected]>: > >> - access to a Low Emission Zone >>> >> >> >> IMHO this has nothing to do with "permit", you don't need a permit, you >> (or better: your vehicle) must satisfy certain conditions. Those are more >> similar to maxweight or maxheight IMHO ("maxemission"). >> >> >> It is sometimes a condition that you are in possession of a document, >> which has to be applied for, can be refused, and must be produced on >> demand. For example the German Umweltplakette which you may be familiar >> with. No sticker means no entry. You can get a ticket for "failing to >> display a sticker." That passes the duck test for being a permit. >> > > > IMHO this is not a "permit", it is the documentation that your car > fullfills the requirements. In Italy you have to expose a small piece of > printed paper from your insurance company behind the windshield to document > that you have paid car insurance. No sticker means you can get a ticket. Is > a car insurance payment receipt a "permit"? > > Not every document you have to apply for is a "permit". > > Cheers, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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