29 Jul 2019, 14:05 by [email protected]: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 07:24, Joseph Eisenberg <> [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > >> >> I see that there was just a mention added that landuse=quarry plus >> disused=yes might be more sensible than disused:landuse=quarry. >> > > It applies to more than just quarries. The problem is that the namespaced > version, when > applied to physical objects, renders them invisible (on standard carto). > Is there a case where making it visible would actually be useful? For quarries or buildings disused/abandoned status is a property and is not changing feature so it makes sense to use disused=yes and abandoned=yes. Disuses building is still a building, only once it starts turning into ruin it gets more questionable. In case of shops it is fundamentally different - disused shop is no longer a shop. If someone really wants to tag it (may to protect against accidental remapping then disused:shop=* is preferable (and it makes no sense to render it in most cases) > Some people with what I view as an over-strict interpretation of rules may > say that's > mapping the history of the thing and OSM doesn't map history, but I ignore > them. > Is there some trace of the pub (maybe sign?) or danger of incorrect remapping? Then it makes sense to keep it. Though in cases where no trace is left I would delete it (yes, OSM doesn't map history). > However, there are several buildings in my town that are clearly disused. > Peeling paintwork, > broken windows, no sign of activity for many years. If I use > disused:building=yes they > vanish from the map but they're observable in reality, which means the map > doesn't > show something that is physically present. Using disused=yes is a way around > this. > Call it tagging for the renderer if you want, but it's not lying for the > renderer. > I would argue that disused=yes is preferable tagging for such feature and that it is desirable for renderers and editors to encourage it.
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