On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 13:43, Andy Townsend <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 29/07/2019 13:05, Paul Allen wrote: > > > It applies to more than just quarries. The problem is that the namespaced > version, when > applied to physical objects, renders them invisible (on standard carto). > > Please let's just stop worrying about just that one renderer... > There are other renderers to worry about, certainly. But... 1) Not all of us have the luxury of running our own renderer which we can customize to match our own requirements. 2) When I look at what other renderers do in comparison to standard carto, I find them lacking in various different ways. I don't think standard carto is perfect, but I find the others a lot worse. Especially the commercial ones that boast how much better they are than standard carto, which generally put cosmetics (drop-shadowed buildings) ahead of presenting useful information (house names/numbers). As already mentioned the tricky bit is working out what "disused" means for > e.g. a quarry. A map that wanted to show actual places where rock was > extracted wouldn't show an inactive hole in the ground, whereas one that > wanted to show holes in the ground would still show them. > Another map might even show the two situations differently, in some way. So that people who wanted only to look for active quarries could find them whilst others who wanted to be warned of dangerous holes in the ground in an area they intended to ramble would be happy. A building that isn't used for anything is still in actuality a building > (until it falls or is knocked down), so I probably wouldn't use that tag > personally, although there is mid-level usage in e.g. the UK: > https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/L9H . > This is where I think standard carto gets it wrong. A disused:building=yes ought to be rendered as a building but a disused:amenity=pub should not be rendered as a pub. Instead a disused: or abandoned: prefix renders everything it is applied to invisibly. Such things are fixable in theory, but in practice they aren't. The result is that mappers do what mappers do... -- Paul
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