On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 at 13:54, Mateusz Konieczny <[email protected]> wrote:
Is there a case where making it visible would actually be useful? > Yes, I would argue that disused physical objects should be rendered. A disused:building=house is still a house. An abandoned:building=house is still a house. Even ruins:building=house may still be visible. Disused non-physical objects should not be rendered: a disused:amenity=pub is no longer a pub. Except there are grey areas, such as disused sports pitches which are maintained to some degree (weeds cut down occasionally) but no longer used. They could be re-activated for their original purpose. Abandoned railway lines pose yet other problems. For quarries or buildings disused/abandoned status is a property and is not > changing > feature so it makes sense to use disused=yes and abandoned=yes. > Which we do only because (currently, on standard carto) disused:building=yes doesn't render. In case of shops it is fundamentally different - disused shop is no longer > a shop. > If someone really wants to tag it (may to protect against accidental > remapping > then disused:shop=* is preferable (and it makes no sense to render it in > most cases) > Depends. It might be preferable to use shop=vacant is there is a strong probability (such as zoning restrictions) which mean that it won't be converted into a domestic residence. Is there some trace of the pub (maybe sign?) or danger of incorrect > remapping? > Then it makes sense to keep it. > In one case I've mapped, yes. It's a listed building with a distinctive old pub sign which cannot be removed (because it's a listed building). It closed a couple of years ago and as far as I can tell is now a domestic residence. A mapper passing by would assume it is still a pub. https://goo.gl/maps/nf3S2MfjjV12tqAaA Though in cases where no trace is left I would delete it (yes, OSM doesn't > map history). > Again, near me there are several pubs that have closed but there is a prospect they will re-open under new ownership. One recently had a bad fire 6 or 7 months ago but has just re-opened. And then there are churches and chapels which have closed but not, as yet, been repurposed. So building=chapel + disused:amenity=place_of_worship. -- Paul
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