Paul Allen: > On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 12:58, bkil <bkil.hu <http://bkil.hu>[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:11 PM Martin Koppenhoefer > > > > almost everytime find someone who does not agree, and while I have read a > lot of > things from Paul that made sense in other contexts, in this particular > discussion > it appeared to me that he was sometimes giving interpretations of > established > tags that didn't find other supporting voices. > > > So it appears to me, too. My mental taxonomy of what is and is not a cafe > clearly differs from that of other mappers in the UK.
Well, here is a gourmet restaurant serving burgers: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5416925514 https://andershusa.com/the-noma-burger-rene-redzepi-reopens-with-take-away-and-wine-bar-copenhagen-denmark/ From the point of a user, when I am about driving with my wife and we want to stop for a nice lunch, I search for cafes and restaurants somewhat nearby. If we drive 10 Km to end up at a McDonals-like place we will be disappointed. If it is a gastropub selling burgers and french fries with a glass of wine or beer we will be happy. > For me the seating > is important. It is usually the case that a place without seating will > normally sell fast food because people don't like standing in a queue for > 20 minutes. But I appear to be alone in thinking of McDonalds as a > cafe with a particular cuisine and limited menu (and bizarre lengths of > crispy potato instead of proper chips). > > Approach it from the other direction. Cafes in the US (called Diners there) > sell burgers, amongst other things. A diner might have a menu very > similar to McDonalds. Is that now a fast food joint rather than a cafe? > If so, what if it limits the menu in summer and has a more expanded one > in winter? > > Things blur a lot in the real world and drawing lines is hard. Especially > when > marketers insist on erasing them. There is a chain of transport cafes in > the UK which describes them as "roadside restaurants." Over the issue > of seating versus food speed, I appear to be alone. > > -- > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Niels Elgaard Larsen _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
