Joel, Did you get a response from DNRM? Are you still in talks with them?
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:07 PM Jonathon Rossi <j...@jonorossi.com> wrote: > Great to hear Joel, I was actually wondering last night if you'd already > sent this off. > > I'm not an expert in this area so happy for others to correct me, however > my reading of your description of the second section that DNRM needs to > waive doesn't explain to someone not familiar with what we are requesting, > I think DNRM staff are likely to think this is still too hard and push back > yet again. I like Andrew Harvey's description here > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/d/df/NSW_GNB_170427_OpenStreetMap.pdf> > of both sections including the extended part of section 2, maybe he will > give permission to use his description. > > Regarding who has signed the waiver: > - According to the contributors page for BCC > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.brisbane.qld.gov.au_explicit_permission> > it > appears they haven't signed the waiver because it didn't exist until early > 2017 but it appears they gave explicit permission to incorporate and > publish their CC-BY data under an ODbL, more than the waiver requires > - The explicit permission from NSW Land and Property Information sounds > the same as the BCC one giving more permission than OSMF now needs > - The NSW Geographical Name Register have signed the waiver > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/d/df/NSW_GNB_170427_OpenStreetMap.pdf> > - Victoria DELWP have signed the waiver > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/e/ed/Vicmap_CCBYPermission_OSM_Final_Jan2018_Ltr.pdf> > - SA and MRWA seem to have explicitly agreed with the same sort of thing > BCC and NSW LPI did > > I don't know if there was some sort of informal/old waiver or explicit > permission template because the older ones are pretty similar, they > obviously aren't explicit about Section 2(a)(5)(B) though. If that is the > case I'd amend your list of who has signed the waiver, maybe even consider > linking to the NSW GNR and Victoria DELWP signed waivers proving the claim. > > Hope that helps, Jono > > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:09 PM Joel H. <95.5.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi All! I have made a response to DNRM, regarding the licensing for >> locality boarders. Please give a critique before I send! >> >> >> *Hello [NAME],* >> >> *Thank you for your time and consideration regarding the approval for >> OpenStreetMap.* >> >> *As a response to your concern over the licence change, it isn’t >> necessary for DNRM data to be re-licenced as a result of usage in >> OpenStreetMap. It’s simply about signing a waiver to clarify minor >> differences in licences. Approving usage in OSM shouldn’t tamper with the >> goals of DNRM since OSM uses a very similar licence with many of the same >> philosophical views.* >> >> *The first part that needs approval is whether or not you think our >> method of Attribution, is sufficient with the “reasonable manner” >> requirement of the CC-BY 4.0. We credit sources through the following page: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors >> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors>, It’s also possible to >> add sources to the objects which are DNRM’s data.* >> >> *The second is to waive Section 2(a)(5)(B) of the CC* >> *BY 4.0 license as to OpenStreetMap and its users with the understanding >> that* >> *the Open Database License 1.0 requires open access or parallel >> distribution of* >> *OpenStreetMap data.* >> >> *Many organisations such as Brisbane City Council and New South Wales >> Land and Property Information, have already given permission in the same >> way that DNRM could.* >> >> *I hope you take the time to reconsider. I’ve attached the PDF that is >> needed for your review, keep in touch.* >> >> >> *Joel Hansen* >> *Local OpenStreetMap Editor* >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talkfirstname.lastname@example.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >> >
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