Yeah pretty much, I interpret it as "We will not deviate from CC-BY 4.0".
On 12/03/18 14:37, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > Is that (second sentence) word for word the same response you got the > first time, where they thought they'd have to relicense under the ODbL? > > P.S. sorry about not replying all with my last email. > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Joel H. <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > OK everyone, Here is the feedback I got after asking for > permission to use CC-BY 4.0 datasets: > > Thank you for your enquiry regarding use of the localities > boundaries dataset in OpenStreetMap. > The Department has given consideration to your request and > advise that, consistent with Queensland Government policy, our > data is provided under a CC:BY 4.0 licence. The Department > will not provide the data under an Open Database licence. It > is our belief that a CC:BY licence is sufficient for use of > our data > > > On 12/03/18 14:27, Jonathon Rossi wrote: >> Could you please share their response or paraphrase it so we can >> all understand their reasons. >> >> Thanks, Jono >> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:24 PM Joel H. <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I tried again, and got rejected again. I had contact with >> someone behind a local GIS company who said he would try to >> help. But I haven't heard back. So I've put it to rest for now... >> >> I guess we should advocate for more compatibility with CC-BY >> 4.0 in our licence. >> >> >> On 12/03/18 13:35, Jonathon Rossi wrote: >>> Joel, >>> >>> Did you get a response from DNRM? Are you still in talks >>> with them? >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:07 PM Jonathon Rossi >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Great to hear Joel, I was actually wondering last night >>> if you'd already sent this off. >>> >>> I'm not an expert in this area so happy for others to >>> correct me, however my reading of your description of >>> the second section that DNRM needs to waive doesn't >>> explain to someone not familiar with what we are >>> requesting, I think DNRM staff are likely to think this >>> is still too hard and push back yet again. I like Andrew >>> Harvey's description here >>> >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/d/df/NSW_GNB_170427_OpenStreetMap.pdf> >>> of both sections including the extended part of section >>> 2, maybe he will give permission to use his description. >>> >>> Regarding who has signed the waiver: >>> - According to the contributors page for BCC >>> >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.brisbane.qld.gov.au_explicit_permission> >>> it >>> appears they haven't signed the waiver because it didn't >>> exist until early 2017 but it appears they gave explicit >>> permission to incorporate and publish their CC-BY data >>> under an ODbL, more than the waiver requires >>> - The explicit permission from NSW Land and Property >>> Information sounds the same as the BCC one giving more >>> permission than OSMF now needs >>> - The NSW Geographical Name Register have signed the >>> waiver >>> >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/d/df/NSW_GNB_170427_OpenStreetMap.pdf> >>> - Victoria DELWP have signed the waiver >>> >>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/e/ed/Vicmap_CCBYPermission_OSM_Final_Jan2018_Ltr.pdf> >>> - SA and MRWA seem to have explicitly agreed with the >>> same sort of thing BCC and NSW LPI did >>> >>> I don't know if there was some sort of informal/old >>> waiver or explicit permission template because the older >>> ones are pretty similar, they obviously aren't explicit >>> about Section 2(a)(5)(B) though. If that is the case I'd >>> amend your list of who has signed the waiver, maybe even >>> consider linking to the NSW GNR and Victoria DELWP >>> signed waivers proving the claim. >>> >>> Hope that helps, Jono >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:09 PM Joel H. >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All! I have made a response to DNRM, regarding >>> the licensing for locality boarders. Please give a >>> critique before I send! >>> >>> >>> /Hello [NAME],// >>> // >>> //Thank you for your time and consideration >>> regarding the approval for OpenStreetMap.// >>> // >>> //As a response to your concern over the licence >>> change, it isn’t necessary for DNRM data to be >>> re-licenced as a result of usage in OpenStreetMap. >>> It’s simply about signing a waiver to clarify minor >>> differences in licences. Approving usage in OSM >>> shouldn’t tamper with the goals of DNRM since OSM >>> uses a very similar licence with many of the same >>> philosophical views.// >>> // >>> //The first part that needs approval is whether or >>> not you think our method of Attribution, is >>> sufficient with the “reasonable manner” requirement >>> of the CC-BY 4.0. We credit sources through the >>> following page: >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors >>> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors>, >>> It’s also possible to add sources to the objects >>> which are DNRM’s data.// >>> // >>> //The second is to waive Section 2(a)(5)(B) of the CC// >>> //BY 4.0 license as to OpenStreetMap and its users >>> with the understanding that// >>> //the Open Database License 1.0 requires open access >>> or parallel distribution of// >>> //OpenStreetMap data.// >>> // >>> //Many organisations such as Brisbane City Council >>> and New South Wales Land and Property Information, >>> have already given permission in the same way that >>> DNRM could.// >>> // >>> //I hope you take the time to reconsider. I’ve >>> attached the PDF that is needed for your review, >>> keep in touch.// >>> // >>> // >>> //Joel Hansen// >>> //Local OpenStreetMap Editor/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-au mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>> <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au> >>> >> > > > > > -- > Jono
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