Hi Kim, Some of the feedback I have received relates to changing shared paths to footpaths. According to the access restrictions listed on (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Australia <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Australia>) this would by default not permit bicycles - I agree with this approach. However not all foot paths are correctly tagged as there are many instances where they have footpaths =yes, which is incorrect for Victoria.
In the other link you shared (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Verifiability <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Verifiability>) its clearly says " Do not enter incorrect data just because it will help a map renderer, a navigation system or some other data consumer which has problem with the correct data”. The problem I have raised relates to incorrect data in OSM that is causing to map renderers to work incorrectly, and as a result I have been fixing data accordingly. This is inline with the OSM guidelines. > On 3 Oct 2021, at 4:35 pm, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 3/10/21 9:13 am, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au wrote: >> In my view, some of the data in OSM is incorrect as a footpath will some >> times have permission bicycle=yes which is incorrect. The majority of the >> time allowed access will have bicycle=unspecified (not defined)which I think >> is fine. >> The issue is that cycling software, apps and gps units used by cyclist takes >> information from OSM and then creates a route based on the permission >> assigned to the road/path in OSM. > > In Victoria cycling is not allowed on most footpaths (for most adults). The > is defined in the wiki at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Australia > > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Australia> > and more formally in OSM at https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2316741 > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2316741> > > As far as I'm concerned, routing software should be using these as part of > the decision on when to route bikes down footpaths. Any software which > ignores these should be have a bug report logged. We should not tag all > footpaths with bicycle=no just for software which doesn't understand the > defaults already configured in OSM. > > It looks like Thosten Engler[*] has just said the same thing. > > [*] Is that the name of the person using [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>? You don't appear to have used a > name in your email so I'm guessing based on your email domain, but as domains > often get used by multiple people there is no guarantee that I'm right. > > Regards, > Kim > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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