Share-Alike doesn't make much sense for data. Agree we should ask TEC to go for CC BY or CC 0.

Kind regards,

Pieter
On 2014-06-18 23:12, Jo wrote:
I posted on the imports list. This is the first answer I got:

    Hi,

    I'm sorry to bear bad news, but the "sharealike" aspect of CC-BY-SA
    4.0 means that you cannot import the data into OSM, since CC-BY-SA 4.0
    data can be publicly adapted only under ___the same___ licence (i.e.
    not under OSM's ODbL licence) - or, more accurately, it must be
    publicly reused one of the licences listed in the first section of
    this page:
    https://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses

    Dan



Can we ask TEC directly to give Openstreetmap explicit permission to reuse the data and redistribute as ODbL? Or whether they'd consider releasing the data under ODbL as well?

Do we have a contact with them who can make such decisions?

Jo


2014-06-18 15:18 GMT+02:00 Jo <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    I managed to get the script to the next 'level'. For lines for
    which all stops are mapped, it's possible to create skeleton route
    relations for all the variations.

    See here for an example:

    
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42418402/RoutesFor%20W%20BXL%20-%20Waterloo.osm

    Give me a sign if you plan to actually use it. If you do, keep in
    mind 2 routes already exist for that line, which I created by
    adding the stops manually. Those 2 contain ways too, of course. It
    takes a bit of fiddling to add them to the route_master and
    transfer the stops from 2 of the skeleton routes to them.

    If you want other skeleton routes to experiment with, let me know.
    It's easier when no routes for such a line exist yet in the OSM
    data. But then you still have to add all the composing ways
    yourself, of course. In the MAPCSS I have code to visually
    highlight all the stops when you temporarily add odbl=yes as a tag
    to the route.

    For those interested in the subject, I think it's best to simply
    show it all during a Google hangout.

    Cheers,

    Jo


    2014-06-17 23:20 GMT+02:00 André Pirard <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        On 2014-06-17 22:41, Jo wrote :
        What I fail to see is why I'd need to contact him. It doesn't
        depend on him at all whether the import is approved or not.
        No but he probably knows much about how being approved and
        it's his interest to help you

        Anyway, the question is: Is that wiki page good enough for
        submitting it or does it need to be improved?
        and he might know that. Not me.

        Up to you (but please help my finger cramp ;-))

        André.



        Jo


        2014-06-17 22:07 GMT+02:00 André Pirard
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

            Jo,

            Isn't Andy Allan making the Transport Map?
            You might try to get advice from him.
            He would certainly be keen to have us on his map!
            I once contacted him for a bike map trifle.
            Took some time but he very kindly replied.
            Whoever that is anyway.

            Fingers crossed.

            André.








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