IN OPENSTREETMAP SURVEY MEANS: go out physically, see something with your own eyes while standing next to it, add it to the DB.
The dictionary definition is not relevant. Jo 2014-06-23 11:58 GMT+02:00 André Pirard <[email protected]>: > On 2014-06-17 09:21, Marc Gemis wrote : > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:13 PM, André Pirard <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> If you use *source=survey 2014-06 TEC 2014-04* in bus stops as I >> recommend, you will both comply with the source requirement and be sure to >> find the indication that they contain your file's data and can be deleted >> from the remaining-to-be-updated file. >> If an existing element does not contain *source=survey 2014-06** TEC >> 2014-04* or later, it will be kept in the remaining-to-be-updated file. >> If a mapper further updates the data, he is kindly requested to use a new >> date such as *source=survey 2014-07* or *source=survey 2014-06-21* . >> >> Sorry, but this is not a survey, this is an import. IMHO, you can > only use survey when you go out and check the exact position of the bus > stop. A survey is not transforming data from one database format into > another. So please do not use source=survey. > > Sorry but it is an import *and* a survey. > > *source=TEC 2014-04* relates to the import of the TEC's data*. **source=TEC > 2014-04* must be in TEC.osm.zip bus stops so that the mapper copies it to > OSM. When found in OSM, it means that the bus stop can be removed from the > file TEC.osm.zip which shows the work that remains to do. Same process for > future versions. > > * source=survey 2014-xx* relates to the location, shelter, bench tags > etc. that the mapper will add at the time of the import or later and it is > a survey. It is the last time that this data was verified and it helps > mappers not to verify what has already been verified. > > There should also be a *TEC 2014-04.osm.zip* file containing the original > TEC data so that the user can compare that data with the data he > introduces, for example TEC's uppercase name and OSM's lowercase name. > There will be later files like *TEC 2014-10.osm.zip* at which time a new > TEC.osm.zip will be created containing the new changes that must be applied. > The user must also be able to see the lines drawn by TEC in case the bus > stops do not make the itinerary clear. > Here is a file of mine: > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/ty49nmfdb2vfz4m/TEC_2014_04-Lignes.2.osm.bz2 > > What remains to be done before we can make realistic updates: > > - publish *TEC 2014-04.osm.zip* (= present TEC.osm.zip + following > tags) > - add *source=TEC 2014-04* to *TEC 2014-04.osm.zip* > - add *source=survey 2014-04* to *TEC 2014-04.osm.zip* > - add website tag > - new TEC.osm.zip = *TEC 2014-04.osm.zip* > - new *TEC 2014-04.lines.osm.zip* > > Please note that the particular syntax of the tags is moot. > But, please, make propositions instead of saying what it must not be > (there are just too many). > > I can publish a "how to tag the bus stops" in the wiki page if you like. > On 2014-06-17 15:19, Ben Abelshausen wrote : > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Marc Gemis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> the source should a) contain some reference to TEC, >> > Exactly! > > > And (a) is "Exactly! " what *source=TEC 2014-04* was proposing. > > > b) any aerial image you have used (probably Bing). > > > This is something that everybody knows, or should know. "Bing 2004" or so, > not "Bing". > > > you can only use survey when you go out > > > On 2014-06-17 15:18, Ben Abelshausen wrote : > > "Survey" does mean explicitly that there was an actual survey (meaning, > going to each and every bus station to check if it is there!): > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Survey#How_to_use > > That article does not define "Survey" explicitly. It says that it is a > survey. > > dictionary.reference.com <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/survey> > > to view in detail, especially to inspect, examine, or appraise formally or > officially in order to ascertain condition, value, etc. > appraise: to estimate the nature, quality, importance, etc.: > > Nothing in that says that the surveyor must travel. Any means to > ascertain the data is acceptable. > > Cordialement, > > André. > >
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