“Whats up with the forests in Canada?” A wiki page is a good idea!

And while talking about forest in eastern Canada…

It would be very helpful to have a plugin in JOSM that deals with Canvec 
water/wooded area integration in multipolygon.  I am not really a developer but 
since the merging operations are repeated over and over again over large 
areas... might it be possible to do something?

On the same topic, it has been suggested to split wooded areas in smaller 
chunks by using features on the ground as outer limits (mostly roads, streams, 
rivers) and get rid of arbitrary rectangles from Canvec. Is it something we are 
aiming at?

Daniel

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 31 August, 2016 07:00
To: Sam Dyck
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada

> we need to have a "Whats up with the forests in Canada?" page on the wiki to 
> explain our situation and how we've tried to deal with it
Sounds like a plan.
Cheerio John

On 30 August 2016 at 22:41, Sam Dyck 
<samueld...@gmail.com<mailto:samueld...@gmail.com>> wrote:
After reading through the changeset discussion, I discovered that one of my 
imports in Northern Manitoba made Worst of OSM. 
(http://worstofosm.tumblr.com/post/22180046353/dear-openstreetmap-isnt-it-strange-how-the).
 As someone who spends a some time amount of time in some of relatively 
unpopulated areas of Canada and makes an effort to check the quality of Canvec 
data (which is usually pretty good), I do agree that it is impossible to do 
everything to the same level of quality that we would provide in Toronto or 
Timmins or even small prairie towns.

One of the things that seems to bother Nakaner and the WoO people (if I may put 
words in their mouths) is that the boundaries are a bit funky in Canvec. 
Forests, lakes and wetlands spill into each other, and they are often out of 
alignment with the Bing imagery. In some ways this reflects a degree of natural 
ambiguity: if we look at the above Hudson's bay coastline, their is hourly 
variation in coastlines, and even the long term patterns change over time. The 
Manitoba-Nunavut boundary is more or less fixed by so we can't correct it, and 
a glance at satellite imagery shows that the vegetation tends to be spaced off 
of the shoreline.
That being said sometimes there is some weird stuff happening in Canvec data 
that is out of sync with what is on the ground. These should be corrected when 
detected, but are rare enough that they shouldn't be a problem. I confess I 
haven't always been great in following the rules when doing imports (I think 
the last few years I've been fully in compliance), and have sometimes caused 
problems, people on this list have generally understanding. Perhaps we need to 
have a "Whats up with the forests in Canada?" page on the wiki to explain our 
situation and how we've tried to deal with it.

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