sounds perfect -- but what's the copyright -- technically the entire survey
would be a derivitive work.

JR

On 22 June 2010 22:14, Barnett, Phillip <[email protected]> wrote:

>   Surely you need trig points?
> http://www.trigpointinguk.com/info/trigpoints.php
>
> They’ll only get you accuracy to a few centimetres though, not millimetres.
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> *Subject:* [Talk-GB] Reference points for total station
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> I have managed to gain access to a total station (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_station) for doing a survey of a built
> up university campus. The goals of the project are 2 fold:
>
> 1) learn some new skills
> 2) get some decent data for OSM of the area.
>
> Now for anyone that doesn't know about these things, they measure angles
> horizontally with a very precise optical system, and use an IR range finder
> beam to locate a reflector prism to within millimeters. It's range is into
> the hundreds of meters. It has a sophisticated processing unit in it that
> can do some helpful maths and data storage for you. The prism is on top of a
> stick of measured length, with a spirit level built in, and is carried and
> placed by an assistant known as a "stick monkey".
>
> It's well known to that that actually know what they are talking about in
> these circles, that positioning the stick is actually the talented part of
> the operation and that repeatedly pressing the green button on the box is
> actually less intellectually demanding.
>
> There is also a "reflectorless" version that I may be able to gain access
> to later, but that's not guaranteed. This uses lasers, and requires no
> "stick monkey" and associated gibbons. The plan is to use this for heights
> of buildings only.
>
> The device provides accurate 3d positions with the following caveat: it has
> no idea where it is, or where it's pointing until it gets reference data,
> this can be done in the following ways:
>
> It knows where down is via gravity;
>
> If you give it a number of calibrated reference points, it can work out
> where it is and where it's pointing, error control is built into this, so it
> needs at least 3, preferably 5 points, one of the points needs to have
> proper altitude;
>
> If you once get it calibrated, you can generate more calibrated reference
> points, meaning that you can daisy chain it off itsself;
>
> Since this is a learning process into surveying, we want to actually do it
> to an accuracy of a few millimeters.
>
> So the question is -- where do we get the first points from? There is one
> very old and well known building right in the middle of the area, and there
> are a number of land marks around, these may be usable, but how do I know
> their positions?
>
> There are also a number of distant landmarks in the area, but most would be
> too far away to use effectively, I dont' think the machine has the ability
> to take points only as distant points with no distance, though I do have
> access to the raw data, and would happily do the maths myself.
>
> Thanks,
> JR
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