I could imagine a scenario where a new mapper gets 10 automated emails if 10 
helpful people set up automation. There's also the saying (mostly about 
AI-generated emails) that if someone didn't value me enough to put the effort 
into writing me an email themselves, why should I put the effort into reading 
it?

I think the target of automation ought to be to get the information to the new 
mappers before they start mapping - perhaps by persuading the commonly-used 
websites and apps to present a link to new mappers giving local guidance when 
they start their first session.

However, I speak as someone who gave up checking other mappers because it 
started to annoy me too much, and I couldn't always think of a polite way to 
explain problems caused.

Jon


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From: Steven Hirschorn <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2025 3:32:18 PM
To: Andy Townsend <[email protected]>
Cc: Talk Gb <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-Welcome-Tool and OSM-GB (Clifford Snow)



On Thu, 17 Apr 2025, 14:56 Andy Townsend, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I'm not convinced that a "fully automatic" email is useful.  It'd be treated 
(rightly) as spam

I'm not sure a single email when someone starts contributing to a region with a 
load of useful links is spam? I know it'll likely be recognised as an automated 
email, but anything to catch new contributors and encourage them to carry on 
seems like a positive thing?

.  As Clifford wrote previously:

> I basically review each changeset the user made and provide feedback as 
> needed, and then send the welcome message.

That's the useful bit - spotting that a new(ish) user has tripped over some 
obscure OSM editor feature and helping them not to make that particular mistake 
again.

The people I send welcomes to often haven't contributed much to correct, but as 
well as mentioning that there are lots of places to get help, I sometimes 
mention the other editors available, particularly if I see someone creating a 
lot of building footprints in ID.

But the manual task is already quite a bit of work compared to a single 
automated email. And I only have a small area of West London covered by my 
OSMCha watch.
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