To be honest, I would just report this to OSM (even multiple times, if
necessary) and ignore it. There are too many idiots on the internet to sue
them all and also I'm not sure how you would be able to find his real name
and address.

Kind regards,
Igor

On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 7:26 PM martianfreeloader <
martianfreeloa...@posteo.net> wrote:

> I have just been insulted and threatened by the account.
>
> I would like to sue the owner of that account for compensation, but I am
> citizen and resident of Germany and I don't read Slovene, nor do I know
> anything about the legal system there.
>
> The owner of the account seems to be resident of Slovenia, according to
> their heatmap: https://yosmhm.neis-one.org/?4KK
> (could be wrong; like my own heatmap would wrongly suggest that I am
> Slovene)
>
> Does any one know how to best go about suing them in Slovenia?
>
>
> For context:
> My only interaction with the account was my comment on
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128392452
>
> They replied to me in a private message which contained three threats:
>
> "DO NOT FUCKING COMMENT ON ANY OF MY FUCKING EDITS"
> "DON’T YOU FUCKING DARE MESSAGE ME"
> "KILL YOURSELF"
>
> and a number of insults:
> "Fuck you bitch"
> "YOU IDIOTIC JACKASS"
> "YOU LITTLE SHIT"
> "GO FUCK YOURSELF"
>
>
> On 04/11/2022 21:00, martianfreeloader wrote:
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 04/11/2022 16:47, Igor Brejc wrote:
> >> Reported him/her, adding a couple of most egregious edits/comments. It
> >> takes only a couple of minutes.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Igor
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 11:28 PM martianfreeloader
> >> <martianfreeloa...@posteo.net <mailto:martianfreeloa...@posteo.net>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Anyone who can spare a half hour, please report 4KK as soon as
> >> possible!
> >>
> >>     As the account is not only insulting people but actively
> >> destroying the
> >>     map, it seems that time is of the essence.
> >>
> >>     Apparently, the account also engages in edit wars:
> >>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/342087384/history
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/342087384/history>
> >>
> >>     I have little capacity for OSM at the moment, sorry; otherwise I'd
> >>     do it
> >>     myself.
> >>
> >>     Thanks to Damjan Gerl for bringing this up and to everyone who
> >>     contributed to the discussion so far!
> >>     m
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     On 03/11/2022 19:16, pitastr...@gmail.com
> >>     <mailto:pitastr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>      > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Report_user
> >>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Report_user>
> >>      >
> >>      > We can report to data, “ат”openstreetmap.org
> >>     <http://openstreetmap.org> for vandalism and report
> >>      > the user in a separate section. We should take all the below
> >>     evidence
> >>      > and forward it to the mentioned email. *
> >>      > *
> >>      >
> >>      > On 03/11/2022 19:11, Igor Brejc wrote:
> >>      >> What's the procedure here? How do we report this?
> >>      >>
> >>      >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2022, 17:59 martianfreeloader
> >>      >> <martianfreeloa...@posteo.net
> >>     <mailto:martianfreeloa...@posteo.net>> wrote:
> >>      >>
> >>      >>     Another inappropriate changeset comment from just yesterday:
> >>      >>
> >>      >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128392452
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128392452>
> >>      >>
> >>      >>
> >>      >>     On 03/11/2022 17:17, Igor Brejc wrote:
> >>      >>     > Hi,
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     > Even if nothing else, he should be reported for that
> >> insulting
> >>      >>     comment
> >>      >>     > on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>
> >>      >>     > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>>, this isn't
> >>      >>     just
> >>      >>     > vandalism, but pure abusive behavior.
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     > Cheers,
> >>      >>     > Igor
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     > On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:47 PM martianfreeloader
> >>      >>     > <martianfreeloa...@posteo.net
> >>     <mailto:martianfreeloa...@posteo.net>
> >>      >>     <mailto:martianfreeloa...@posteo.net
> >>     <mailto:martianfreeloa...@posteo.net>>> wrote:
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     Hi,
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     I think the account 4KK should be reported for
> >> vandalism.
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     TLDR:
> >>      >>     >     - 4KK destroys the map.
> >>      >>     >     - When confronted with their behaviour, they either
> >> don't
> >>      >>     reply at all
> >>      >>     >     or in an insulting way.
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     Long version:
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     History of 4KK:
> >>      >>     >     - The account was created in 2017.
> >>      >>     >     - Strong mapping activity only started in Feb 2022
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     A list of the changesets that have been discussed by
> >> other
> >>      >>     users:
> >>      >>     >
> >>     https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480
> >>     <
> https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480>
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>
> >>   <https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480
> >> <https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480>>
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     Comments made by other mappers to 4KK's changesets:
> >>      >>     >     - 11 changesets of 4KK are discussed by other users
> >> (since
> >>      >>     April 2022)
> >>      >>     >     - All 11 changesets have been critized by other
> >> mappers as
> >>      >>     seriously
> >>      >>     >     and
> >>      >>     >     clearly wrong. (with mixed degrees politeness, but
> >> nothing
> >>      >>     off the
> >>      >>     >     spectrum of normal OSM demeanor)
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     4KK's reaction:
> >>      >>     >     - To 9 of these comments, 4KK did not reply at all.
> >>      >>     >     - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied in a polite but
> >>      >>     nonconstructive way:
> >>      >>     > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625>
> >>      >>     >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625>>
> >>      >>     >     - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied with an insult and
> >> nothing
> >>      >>     substantial:
> >>      >>     > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>
> >>      >>     >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577>>
> >>      >>     >     (I think that this incident alone would already
> justify
> >>      >>     deletion of the
> >>      >>     >     account)
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     I did not check the actual mapping content of these
> >>      >>     changesets, so I
> >>      >>     >     can't tell whether all the other mappers were always
> >> right
> >>      >>     with their
> >>      >>     >     criticism. But given that 4KK has been repeatedly
> drawn
> >>      >>     criticism by
> >>      >>     >     various users, I assume they are right.
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     Personally, I had one instance myself where I
> >> discovered
> >>      >>     that 4KK
> >>      >>     >     mapped
> >>      >>     >     a completely fictional motorway (in fact most credits
> >>     go to
> >>      >>     >     scabiosa_trenta), but I didn't make this public at the
> >>     time
> >>      >>     because I
> >>      >>     >     didn't see the broader picture.
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     Best,
> >>      >>     >     m
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >
> >>      >>     >     On 26/10/2022 23:50, Miha Pavšič via Talk-si wrote:
> >>      >>     >      > Živjo,
> >>      >>     >      >
> >>      >>     >      > ja, že prej je to počel (recimo 9 mesecev nazaj).
> >>     Sam sem
> >>      >>     najprej
> >>      >>     >     opazil relacijo "Razvojna os 3A Ljubljana-Kočevje”,
> >>     kjer je
> >>      >>     vrisal
> >>      >>     >     “proposed” cesto od razcepa Malence naprej, kot vir pa
> >>     navedel
> >>      >>     >     novico iz leta 2015. Gre samo za neko staro idejo, ki
> >>     se je
> >>      >>     takrat
> >>      >>     >     pojavila, ampak je vsaj na začetnem delu nerealistična
> >>     in se
> >>      >>     o njej
> >>      >>     >     sploh ne govori več. Bila je idejna zasnova, sploh ne
> >>     nekaj
> >>      >>     >     načrtovanega, in kot taka zadeva po mojem nima kaj
> >>     iskati v OSM.
> >>      >>     >     Kako pa bi izgledalo, če bi vsak risal neke idejne
> >>     zasnove?
> >>      >>     >      >
> >>      >>     >      > Skratka, changeset sem pokomentiral (letoss
> >> septembra),
> >>      >>     >     komentarja z njegove strani ni bilo, pa tudi na moje
> >>     sporočilo
> >>      >>     >     direktno njemu ni odgovoril.
> >>      >>     >      >
> >>      >>     >      > Lep pozdrav,
> >>      >>     >      > Miha
> >>      >>     >      >
> >>      >>     >      >> On 26 Oct 2022, at 17:58, Damjan Gerl
> >>     <dam...@damjan.net <mailto:dam...@damjan.net>
> >>      >>     >     <mailto:dam...@damjan.net <mailto:dam...@damjan.net
> >>>
> >>     wrote:
> >>      >>     >      >>
> >>      >>     >      >> Prosim napiši kakšno opombo na changeset, tako da
> >>     bo tam
> >>      >>     "javno"
> >>      >>     >     odgovoril (če bo), da bomo vsaj videli kaj/kako
> >>     odgovori. In
> >>      >>     lahko
> >>      >>     >     dobi tudi več odgovorov drugih osm-erjev.
> >>      >>     >      >>
> >>      >>     >      >> Potem pa se lahko ukrepa in vpraša, da ga iz
> >>     osm-boarda
> >>      >>     opomnijo
> >>      >>     >     ali začasno blokirajo, če je potrebno.
> >>      >>     >      >>
> >>      >>     >      >> LP,
> >>      >>     >      >> Damjan
> >>      >>     >      >>
> >>      >>     >      >>  From "Blaž Lorger" blaz.lor...@krs.net
> >>     <mailto:blaz.lor...@krs.net>
> >>      >>     <mailto:blaz.lor...@krs.net <mailto:blaz.lor...@krs.net>>
> >>      >>     >      >> To talk-si@openstreetmap.org
> >>     <mailto:talk-si@openstreetmap.org>
> >>      >>     <mailto:talk-si@openstreetmap.org
> >>     <mailto:talk-si@openstreetmap.org>>
> >>      >>     >      >> Cc Date Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:35:56 +0200
> >>      >>     >      >> Subject [Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK
> >>      >>     >      >>
> >>      >>     >      >>
> >>      >>     >      >> Mogoče ste že opazili da je v zadnjih dneh
> >>     uporabnik 4KK
> >>      >>     >     (https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK>
> >>      >>     >     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK>>) naredil več
> >>      >>     sprememb na
> >>      >>     >     področju Slovenije.
> >>      >>     >      >> Kakšna je pozitivna, so pa tudi neustrezne.
> >>      >>     >      >> Zgleda se je koncentriral na ceste pri tem pa je
> >>      >>     spremenil tudi
> >>      >>     >     precej relacij. Zaradi površnega dela so vsaj nekatere
> >>     izmed teh
> >>      >>     >     relacij zdaj nepravilne. Kot na primer ta turn
> >> restriction
> >>      >>     >
> >>  (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history>
> >>      >>     >
> >>  <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history
> >>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history>>).
> >>      >>     Zdaj je
> >>      >>     >     legalno narediti oster zavoj in se vrniti v krožišče.
> >>      >>     >      >>
> >>      >>     >      >> Na moj poziv naj popravi take napake je jasno
> >>     odgovoril
> >>      >>     da tega
> >>      >>     >     ne namerava storiti.
> >>      >>     >      >> Predlagam da se lotite popravljanja.
> >>      >>     >      >>
> >>      >>     >      >> Pozdrav,
> >>      >>     >      >>    Blaž
> >>      >>     >      >>
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