Hi,

I think the account 4KK should be reported for vandalism.

TLDR:
- 4KK destroys the map.
- When confronted with their behaviour, they either don't reply at all or in an insulting way.


Long version:

History of 4KK:
- The account was created in 2017.
- Strong mapping activity only started in Feb 2022

A list of the changesets that have been discussed by other users:
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480

Comments made by other mappers to 4KK's changesets:
- 11 changesets of 4KK are discussed by other users (since April 2022)
- All 11 changesets have been critized by other mappers as seriously and clearly wrong. (with mixed degrees politeness, but nothing off the spectrum of normal OSM demeanor)

4KK's reaction:
- To 9 of these comments, 4KK did not reply at all.
- To 1 changeset, 4KK replied in a polite but nonconstructive way: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625 - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied with an insult and nothing substantial: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577 (I think that this incident alone would already justify deletion of the account)


I did not check the actual mapping content of these changesets, so I can't tell whether all the other mappers were always right with their criticism. But given that 4KK has been repeatedly drawn criticism by various users, I assume they are right.

Personally, I had one instance myself where I discovered that 4KK mapped a completely fictional motorway (in fact most credits go to scabiosa_trenta), but I didn't make this public at the time because I didn't see the broader picture.

Best,
m





On 26/10/2022 23:50, Miha Pavšič via Talk-si wrote:
Živjo,

ja, že prej je to počel (recimo 9 mesecev nazaj). Sam sem najprej opazil relacijo 
"Razvojna os 3A Ljubljana-Kočevje”, kjer je vrisal “proposed” cesto od razcepa 
Malence naprej, kot vir pa navedel novico iz leta 2015. Gre samo za neko staro 
idejo, ki se je takrat pojavila, ampak je vsaj na začetnem delu nerealistična in se 
o njej sploh ne govori več. Bila je idejna zasnova, sploh ne nekaj načrtovanega, in 
kot taka zadeva po mojem nima kaj iskati v OSM. Kako pa bi izgledalo, če bi vsak 
risal neke idejne zasnove?

Skratka, changeset sem pokomentiral (letoss septembra), komentarja z njegove 
strani ni bilo, pa tudi na moje sporočilo direktno njemu ni odgovoril.

Lep pozdrav,
Miha

On 26 Oct 2022, at 17:58, Damjan Gerl <[email protected]> wrote:

Prosim napiši kakšno opombo na changeset, tako da bo tam "javno" odgovoril (če 
bo), da bomo vsaj videli kaj/kako odgovori. In lahko dobi tudi več odgovorov drugih 
osm-erjev.

Potem pa se lahko ukrepa in vpraša, da ga iz osm-boarda opomnijo ali začasno 
blokirajo, če je potrebno.

LP,
Damjan

 From "Blaž Lorger" [email protected]
To [email protected]
Cc Date Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:35:56 +0200
Subject [Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK


Mogoče ste že opazili da je v zadnjih dneh uporabnik 4KK 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK) naredil več sprememb na področju 
Slovenije.
Kakšna je pozitivna, so pa tudi neustrezne.
Zgleda se je koncentriral na ceste pri tem pa je spremenil tudi precej relacij. 
Zaradi površnega dela so vsaj nekatere izmed teh relacij zdaj nepravilne. Kot 
na primer ta turn restriction 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history). Zdaj je legalno 
narediti oster zavoj in se vrniti v krožišče.

Na moj poziv naj popravi take napake je jasno odgovoril da tega ne namerava 
storiti.
Predlagam da se lotite popravljanja.

Pozdrav,
   Blaž

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