Hi,

Even if nothing else, he should be reported for that insulting comment on
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577, this isn't just
vandalism, but pure abusive behavior.

Cheers,
Igor

On Thu, Nov 3, 2022 at 4:47 PM martianfreeloader <
martianfreeloa...@posteo.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I think the account 4KK should be reported for vandalism.
>
> TLDR:
> - 4KK destroys the map.
> - When confronted with their behaviour, they either don't reply at all
> or in an insulting way.
>
>
> Long version:
>
> History of 4KK:
> - The account was created in 2017.
> - Strong mapping activity only started in Feb 2022
>
> A list of the changesets that have been discussed by other users:
> https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=6270480
>
> Comments made by other mappers to 4KK's changesets:
> - 11 changesets of 4KK are discussed by other users (since April 2022)
> - All 11 changesets have been critized by other mappers as seriously and
> clearly wrong. (with mixed degrees politeness, but nothing off the
> spectrum of normal OSM demeanor)
>
> 4KK's reaction:
> - To 9 of these comments, 4KK did not reply at all.
> - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied in a polite but nonconstructive way:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/126707625
> - To 1 changeset, 4KK replied with an insult and nothing substantial:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121494577
> (I think that this incident alone would already justify deletion of the
> account)
>
>
> I did not check the actual mapping content of these changesets, so I
> can't tell whether all the other mappers were always right with their
> criticism. But given that 4KK has been repeatedly drawn criticism by
> various users, I assume they are right.
>
> Personally, I had one instance myself where I discovered that 4KK mapped
> a completely fictional motorway (in fact most credits go to
> scabiosa_trenta), but I didn't make this public at the time because I
> didn't see the broader picture.
>
> Best,
> m
>
>
>
>
>
> On 26/10/2022 23:50, Miha Pavšič via Talk-si wrote:
> > Živjo,
> >
> > ja, že prej je to počel (recimo 9 mesecev nazaj). Sam sem najprej opazil
> relacijo "Razvojna os 3A Ljubljana-Kočevje”, kjer je vrisal “proposed”
> cesto od razcepa Malence naprej, kot vir pa navedel novico iz leta 2015.
> Gre samo za neko staro idejo, ki se je takrat pojavila, ampak je vsaj na
> začetnem delu nerealistična in se o njej sploh ne govori več. Bila je
> idejna zasnova, sploh ne nekaj načrtovanega, in kot taka zadeva po mojem
> nima kaj iskati v OSM. Kako pa bi izgledalo, če bi vsak risal neke idejne
> zasnove?
> >
> > Skratka, changeset sem pokomentiral (letoss septembra), komentarja z
> njegove strani ni bilo, pa tudi na moje sporočilo direktno njemu ni
> odgovoril.
> >
> > Lep pozdrav,
> > Miha
> >
> >> On 26 Oct 2022, at 17:58, Damjan Gerl <dam...@damjan.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Prosim napiši kakšno opombo na changeset, tako da bo tam "javno"
> odgovoril (če bo), da bomo vsaj videli kaj/kako odgovori. In lahko dobi
> tudi več odgovorov drugih osm-erjev.
> >>
> >> Potem pa se lahko ukrepa in vpraša, da ga iz osm-boarda opomnijo ali
> začasno blokirajo, če je potrebno.
> >>
> >> LP,
> >> Damjan
> >>
> >>  From "Blaž Lorger" blaz.lor...@krs.net
> >> To talk-si@openstreetmap.org
> >> Cc Date Wed, 26 Oct 2022 17:35:56 +0200
> >> Subject [Talk-si] "izboljšave" uporabnika 4KK
> >>
> >>
> >> Mogoče ste že opazili da je v zadnjih dneh uporabnik 4KK (
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/4KK) naredil več sprememb na področju
> Slovenije.
> >> Kakšna je pozitivna, so pa tudi neustrezne.
> >> Zgleda se je koncentriral na ceste pri tem pa je spremenil tudi precej
> relacij. Zaradi površnega dela so vsaj nekatere izmed teh relacij zdaj
> nepravilne. Kot na primer ta turn restriction (
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2653752/history). Zdaj je legalno
> narediti oster zavoj in se vrniti v krožišče.
> >>
> >> Na moj poziv naj popravi take napake je jasno odgovoril da tega ne
> namerava storiti.
> >> Predlagam da se lotite popravljanja.
> >>
> >> Pozdrav,
> >>    Blaž
> >>
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