Hello,

Serge Wroclawski on 2013-06-21:
> During the TIGER import, small neighborhoods were imported as hamlets.

> I'm wondering what other people's experience with the hamlets are. Are
> they useful where you live? Are they nonsense (as they have been in
> NYC and DC)?

I've only seen a few around here in NC. Some, such as West Park[0],
marked well-defined subdivisions, and I replaced them with areas.
Another one, Green Level[1], is an "unincorporated community" with its
own Wikipedia page, and place=hamlet actually seems to be correct.

> I'm thinking that it might be worthwhile to take some kind of action,
> either converting them to something else, or if there's really
> consensus, deleting them.

The ones that mark subdivisions may be doing more harm than good.
However, the one that marked a hamlet was correct, and the hamlet could
otherwise have been missed in survey, so deleting it would be a problem.

> I realized only after last week's discussion about neighborhoods that
> the hamlets (which are distinct from nehighborhoods) are the things
> messing up the geocoder. A neighborhood is understood to be a place
> that's not often in an address, but a hamlet is a village, and so a
> hamlet in the middle of an urban place doesn't make sense.

So a hamlet within municipal boundaries is almost certainly wrong. Could
we try to detect which imported hamlets are within cities, and delete
them or change them to place=neighbourhood?

Sean Bartell

[0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/204876141
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/158391394

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