Fusion is supposed to cover low vision to no vision? Once someone gets to
the very low vision  or no vision stage for most people who rely mostly on
speech  at that point it's about the voice you prefer with the speed,pitch
etc.  they want/need to hear. I'm not a eloquence or dectalk fan. I hate
those synths with the heat of a thousand suns but realize some people
actually need them. People with lower vision and hearing issues come to
mind who don't know braille.   As far as classic vocalizer is concerned. I
realize tracking with them may not be perfect. Using firefox and chrome
isn't perfect with fusion but i'm willing to take the trade off if i could
get jill back.  I do like fusion and will most likely end up buying it.
It's easy to learn if your already using we or zt.    I didn't have to
learn a bunch of new hot keys since i had mag/reader on my laptop already.
I didn't even have to  reset up my zt settings. All i did was change to we
key layout and get the apps i had and i was up and running.  I do like that
focus actually tracks and the learning center is pretty cool. I knew most
of the stuff in it but i like that it has things to learn windows not just
fusion.  My only complaint outside of no jill is when the screenreader part
becomes unresponsive. Restarting fusion to get speech back takes forever. I
realize some of this is due to the magnifivation side can y'all do anything
to make it not take so long  or put in a way to just restart the screen
reader side?


Reeva

On Friday, December 18, 2015, Jeremy Curry via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> There are currently no plans to do this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Singing Sparrow [mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net <javascript:;>]
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:24 PM
> To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Window Eyes and ZoomText or Fusion?
>
> will neo speech be coming to window eyes?
>
> On 12/18/2015 1:03 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote:
> > Hi Reeva,
> >
> > I am catching up on some of my email today and I wanted to respond to
> your question about older synthesizers and ZoomText Fusion.  There are
> several reasons that we did not include older synthesizers, such as DecTalk
> Access32.  However, at the top of the list is that many of the older
> synthesizers do not allow for speaking and highlighting of text
> simultaneously.  You noted that the price was worth it for "speech and
> tracking focus alone."  This was one of the main feature requests we heard
> for ZoomText Fusion.  That is, users wanted to see everything that they
> hear.  If we were to include older synthesizers, the user experience would
> vary from synthesizer to synthesizer, and most users would think that
> Fusion would not work when, in reality, it is because the synthesizers are
> old and no longer being developed.  Thus, we made the decision to include
> the latest synthesizers that do support this technology.  Additionally, a
> very high percentage of ZoomText Fusion users want a
>   h
> >   uman-sounding synthesizer.  Thus, if we included DecTalk or Eloquence,
> there are not only very few users who want it, but it would not work with
> tracking focus, and the cost of the product would likely need to be
> higher.  A similar issue exists with the older Vocalizer (that is,
> NON-expressive) voices.  The tracking would not work and the price of the
> product would likely need to be higher.  This would give the impression
> that ZoomText Fusion did not work as advertised and raise the cost at the
> same time.  I hope this helps clarify why we selected to include Neospeech
> and Vocalizer Expressive, as these synthesizers are able to track
> everything that is spoken.  In fact, we did a ton of work under the hood to
> ensure that this works extremely well with these synthesizers and ZoomText
> Fusion.
> >
> > I hope you are enjoying the ZoomText Fusion trial!
> >
> > What are some of the features you like best about it?
> >
> > Merry Christmas!
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> > Jeremy Curry
> > Director of Product Management
> > Ai Squared, Inc.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Talk
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry <javascript:;>=
> aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com <javascript:;>] On
> > Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:53 PM
> > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Loy
> > Subject: Re: Window Eyes and ZoomText or Fusion?
> >
> > I have been using we and zt together for the past year and a half. I'm
> avout 2 and a half weeks into my fusion trial and i'm making plans to pay
> the $400 to upgrade. It's basically we and zt finally working good
> together. It's worth it just for speech and focus actually tracking alone.
> > Keep in mind this is new software the downsides i'm about to list may
> change with updates. The biggest one in my opinion is voices if you are a
> dectalk or eloquence fan you'll have to get those voices from a 3rd party
> as they do not come with fusion and the versions on the website for sale
> for we for office will not work with fusion. If like me you bought/want
> vocalizer classic  voices like jill as i bought her for we for office at
> this time you're outta luck. You get vocalizer expressive tom, ava,
> samantha and allison and neospeech kate and paul. Ai2 people if y'all read
> this PLEASE PLEASE make the we for office voices available for purchase on
> the gw site work with fusion. I know some of this is up to the tts company
> that licenses the voices to y'all but y'all are gonna have people like me
> coming over  from using we and zt as seperate products together who are
> gonna want dectalk and eloquence  or in my case i bought vocalizer classic
> for jill for we for office nuance got
>  ri
> >   d of her when they came out with vocalizer expressive. I don't think
> it's too much to ask for people who bought voices for we for office or
> people coming over from the retail version of we to get to use the voices
> we paid for already  with fusion.
> > At this time the chrome web browser is not supported by fusion. The last
> downside is if you use the old zt keyboard, the one with the circle buttons
> on top.  You're gonna have to buy the new zt keyboard the old version does
> not work with fusion. I highly suggest downloading the 60 day trial to see
> if you like it. It's easy to get used to as there's a we keybord layout and
> you can use all the apps from app central.
> >
> > Reeva
> > On Dec 8, 2015 5:36 PM, "Loy via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com
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> >
> >> Any opinions on the ZoomText Fusion versus Window Eyes and ZoomText
> >> as separate programs. I am trying to decide on upgrading to Fusion
> >> for
> >> $99 or purchase the ZoomText upgrade for Windows 10 for $49.  I
> >> primarily use Window Eyes and use ZoomText when I am doing my banking
> and Quicken.
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