In firefox focus tracking seems to lag a little behind speech. At first i thought it was from using sapi5 voices but it's present even when i use the voices in fusion. I've have seen this issue with the following synths:
Ivona Acapela Neospeech (both the voices in fusion and sapi5 voices i purchased from neospeech) Cepstral Vocalizer expressive (both the voices in fusion and the version from code factory One of the web sites i get this on is blabbermouth.net i'm using fusion on a hp windows 8.1 64 bit laptop. Also, font dont look so good in firefox i thought it was supported? Are there changes i need to make on the firefox side? Will chrome support be added anytime soon? .. Reeva On Monday, December 21, 2015, Jeremy Curry via Talk < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Reeva, > > You mentioned that Firefox and Chrome are not tracking properly for you. > I would expect this issue in Chrome, as it is not officially supported. > But, could you please provide examples of where this is happening in > Firefox? > > Regarding the unresponsiveness you mention, we are working on the first > maintenance fix that should be out very soon. This has fixes for both the > speech and magnification side. This will be forthcoming in the next few > weeks. After this release rolls out, I would really like to know if you > still experience this issue. > > Best Regards, > > Jeremy > > > From: Reeva Webb [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;>] > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 4:33 PM > To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window Eyes and ZoomText or Fusion? > > Fusion is supposed to cover low vision to no vision? Once someone gets to > the very low vision or no vision stage for most people who rely mostly on > speech at that point it's about the voice you prefer with the speed,pitch > etc. they want/need to hear. I'm not a eloquence or dectalk fan. I hate > those synths with the heat of a thousand suns but realize some people > actually need them. People with lower vision and hearing issues come to > mind who don't know braille. As far as classic vocalizer is concerned. I > realize tracking with them may not be perfect. Using firefox and chrome > isn't perfect with fusion but i'm willing to take the trade off if i could > get jill back. I do like fusion and will most likely end up buying it. > It's easy to learn if your already using we or zt. I didn't have to > learn a bunch of new hot keys since i had mag/reader on my laptop already. > I didn't even have to reset up my zt settings. All i did was change to we > key layout and get the apps i had an > d i was up and running. I do like that focus actually tracks and the > learning center is pretty cool. I knew most of the stuff in it but i like > that it has things to learn windows not just fusion. My only complaint > outside of no jill is when the screenreader part becomes unresponsive. > Restarting fusion to get speech back takes forever. I realize some of this > is due to the magnifivation side can y'all do anything to make it not take > so long or put in a way to just restart the screen reader side? > > > Reeva > > On Friday, December 18, 2015, Jeremy Curry via Talk < > [email protected] <javascript:;><mailto: > [email protected] <javascript:;>>> wrote: > There are currently no plans to do this. > > Thanks, > > Jeremy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Singing Sparrow [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;> > <javascript:;>] > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 2:24 PM > To: Jeremy Curry; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window Eyes and ZoomText or Fusion? > > will neo speech be coming to window eyes? > > On 12/18/2015 1:03 PM, Jeremy Curry via Talk wrote: > > Hi Reeva, > > > > I am catching up on some of my email today and I wanted to respond to > your question about older synthesizers and ZoomText Fusion. There are > several reasons that we did not include older synthesizers, such as DecTalk > Access32. However, at the top of the list is that many of the older > synthesizers do not allow for speaking and highlighting of text > simultaneously. You noted that the price was worth it for "speech and > tracking focus alone." This was one of the main feature requests we heard > for ZoomText Fusion. That is, users wanted to see everything that they > hear. If we were to include older synthesizers, the user experience would > vary from synthesizer to synthesizer, and most users would think that > Fusion would not work when, in reality, it is because the synthesizers are > old and no longer being developed. Thus, we made the decision to include > the latest synthesizers that do support this technology. Additionally, a > very high percentage of ZoomText Fusion users want a > h > > uman-sounding synthesizer. Thus, if we included DecTalk or Eloquence, > there are not only very few users who want it, but it would not work with > tracking focus, and the cost of the product would likely need to be > higher. A similar issue exists with the older Vocalizer (that is, > NON-expressive) voices. The tracking would not work and the price of the > product would likely need to be higher. This would give the impression > that ZoomText Fusion did not work as advertised and raise the cost at the > same time. I hope this helps clarify why we selected to include Neospeech > and Vocalizer Expressive, as these synthesizers are able to track > everything that is spoken. In fact, we did a ton of work under the hood to > ensure that this works extremely well with these synthesizers and ZoomText > Fusion. > > > > I hope you are enjoying the ZoomText Fusion trial! > > > > What are some of the features you like best about it? > > > > Merry Christmas! > > > > Jeremy > > > > Jeremy Curry > > Director of Product Management > > Ai Squared, Inc. > > Phone: (802) 362-3612 > > Email: [email protected] <javascript:;><javascript:;> > > Web: www.aisquared.com<http://www.aisquared.com> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Talk > > [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry <javascript:;><javascript:;>= > [email protected] <javascript:;><javascript:;>] On > > Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk > > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:53 PM > > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Loy > > Subject: Re: Window Eyes and ZoomText or Fusion? > > > > I have been using we and zt together for the past year and a half. I'm > avout 2 and a half weeks into my fusion trial and i'm making plans to pay > the $400 to upgrade. It's basically we and zt finally working good > together. It's worth it just for speech and focus actually tracking alone. > > Keep in mind this is new software the downsides i'm about to list may > change with updates. The biggest one in my opinion is voices if you are a > dectalk or eloquence fan you'll have to get those voices from a 3rd party > as they do not come with fusion and the versions on the website for sale > for we for office will not work with fusion. If like me you bought/want > vocalizer classic voices like jill as i bought her for we for office at > this time you're outta luck. You get vocalizer expressive tom, ava, > samantha and allison and neospeech kate and paul. Ai2 people if y'all read > this PLEASE PLEASE make the we for office voices available for purchase on > the gw site work with fusion. I know some of this is up to the tts company > that licenses the voices to y'all but y'all are gonna have people like me > coming over from using we and zt as seperate products together who are > gonna want dectalk and eloquence or in my case i bought vocalizer classic > for jill for we for office nuance got > ri > > d of her when they came out with vocalizer expressive. I don't think > it's too much to ask for people who bought voices for we for office or > people coming over from the retail version of we to get to use the voices > we paid for already with fusion. > > At this time the chrome web browser is not supported by fusion. The last > downside is if you use the old zt keyboard, the one with the circle buttons > on top. You're gonna have to buy the new zt keyboard the old version does > not work with fusion. I highly suggest downloading the 60 day trial to see > if you like it. It's easy to get used to as there's a we keybord layout and > you can use all the apps from app central. > > > > Reeva > > On Dec 8, 2015 5:36 PM, "Loy via Talk" <[email protected] > <javascript:;><javascript:;>> wrote: > > > >> Any opinions on the ZoomText Fusion versus Window Eyes and ZoomText > >> as separate programs. I am trying to decide on upgrading to Fusion > >> for > >> $99 or purchase the ZoomText upgrade for Windows 10 for $49. 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