This is exactly when having an alternate screen
reader on call helps. If my browser crashes with
Window-eyes, I invoke NVDA. It tells me the
browser has crashed when Window-eyes is silent.
Then I can close the browser and Window-eyes
comes back. But Window-eyes never announces the crashing of the browser.
I am using 8.4 and Windows 7.
Elizabeth
At 02:38 PM 1/29/2016, you wrote:
Hi Brandon,
I am using Windows 7, and I just click on a link
at Scottrade.com, and WE9.3 went silent.
Fortunately, I had sighted help, and tabbing
around their was window with the message
informing me that IE. has crashed and the OK is waiting to be pressed.
Once the OK was entered, WE9.3 started talking
again. If I had not had sighted help,
and I could not get WE9.3 to talk again, I
would have had to reboot the computer.
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** ** ** ** computer specifications: Window Eyes
9.3, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with
dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel®
Core2 Quad Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
1066 MHz FSB) quad core drivers and software
updated automatically with Ninite and Driver
Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but
other than that Driver Booster is a great
program. Recommended software: Firefox,
Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 12,
Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft
security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win
Patrol, Roboform, Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
On 1/29/2016 1:39 AM, Brandon Miller via Talk wrote:
I'm using Windows 10 home, version 1511, OS
build 10586.71. I'm also using Window-eyes
9.3.1. I am currently doing my best to contend with annoyances such as:
1. When I press alt+F4 to close apps, Wineyes
frequently says nothing at all. If I want to
confirm that anything has taken place at all, I
often have to press the Wineyes read title bar command, Ctrl+shift+T.
2. I'm a Microsoft certified systems engineer,
so I frequently go in and delete a whole batch
of files from places like the temp, %temp%, and
prefetch folders to not only free up disk
space, but to also maintain high overall system
stability and responsiveness. Often times in
Windows 10 however, just as above I am almost
always greeted by nothing except total silence
from Wineyes about halfway through this
seemingly simple operation. Because of my
educational background, and the level of
familiarity that I have regarding
internal/background Windows processes, services
and structures, I've been able to deduce that
as a blind person using Window-eyes, you've
usually got to alt+tab around to find the
screen where you have to use the Wineyes mouse
reading commands to click on the "Continue with
automatic administrator rights" button, and in
the same screen I also have to use the Wineyes
mouse reading keys since I tend to put a check
in the checkbox that says, "Do this for all items".
3. If you access the start button and select
settings, although the screens within are
mostly accessible, the mouse reading commands
can get tripped up and are read out by Wineyes
in either a nonsensical, or undesirable way. To
experience for yourself what I'm talking about, do the following:
A. Access the start menu.
B. Press up arrow until you get to settings. Press enter on settings.
C. Press right arrow once to move the cursor,
and subsequently the focus to, the devices category and press enter.
D. At this point, the category that should be
automatically selected for you by default will
more than likely be printers and scanners. That's fine.
E. Now press tab four times, and you should
arrive at some kind of checkbox regarding metered internet connections.
Wineyes doesn't read that checkbox properly
when tabbing through the screen, and I can't
get the mouse reading keys to get to that
checkbox either! I am able to get the Wineyes
mouse reading keys to let me access the first
checkbox of this screen, so I know that it for
example says, "Let Windows manage my default
printer". The second checkbox on this screen
however, is not reading properly at all.
4. Last but not least, Window-eyes is giving
me all kinds of problems when trying to do
something as simple as write an email with
Thunderbird! I'll be in the middle of composing
a simple, old fashioned, plane text email, when
suddenly and without any kind of warning,
Window-eyes'll just start announcing my title
bar as untitled, and not read anything in
either the subject, or body fields of the
message. I ensure that the window is maximized,
makes no difference. I press Ctrl+alt+W to
relaunch Window-eyes, which sometimes does, and
sometimes doesn't make any difference. I've
tried uninstalling the TB Enhance app, thinking
that it might not have exactly kept pace with
Mozilla's Thunderbird development team, but
doing so also unfortunately made no discernible
difference. I've had to re-launch Window-eyes
literally no less than four times while composing this message alone!
What's up with all these little annoying
problems I'm experiencing with regard to
Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.3.1? Is anybody
else contending with stuff like this?
P.S What the H e double hockysticks! Now the
Read To Me app isn't working in Thunderbird
either! Before you ask, yes, I guarantee you
I've set it up correctly, I would know since
I've used it successfully before on this PC in
both Firefox 43, and Internet Explorer 11.
Right now though, Ctrl+shift+r at the top of
the message? Nothing. Ctrl+shift+r in the
middle of the message? Nada. Ctrl+shift+r in
the middle of a line in the middle of the
message? Zilch. Zippo. Grrrrr! Ai Squared, what gives!
Disclaimer: Be advised; It is possible that
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Brandon Dean Miller
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