Good tip.  I have N.V.D.A.  I'll try this.

Mike

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On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 14:51:01 -0500
Elizabeth via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is exactly when having an alternate screen reader on call helps. If my 
> browser crashes with Window-eyes, I invoke NVDA. It tells me the browser has 
> crashed when Window-eyes is silent. Then I can close the browser and 
> Window-eyes comes back. But Window-eyes never announces the crashing of the 
> browser.
> I am using 8.4 and Windows 7.
> 
> Elizabeth
> 
> At 02:38 PM 1/29/2016, you wrote:
> >Hi Brandon,
> >I am using Windows 7, and I just click on a link >at Scottrade.com, and 
> >WE9.3 went silent.
> >Fortunately, I had sighted help, and tabbing >around their was window with 
> >the message >informing me that IE. has crashed and the OK is waiting to be 
> >pressed.
> >Once the OK was entered, WE9.3 started talking >again.  If I had not had 
> >sighted help,
> >  and I could not get WE9.3 to talk  again, I > would have had to reboot the 
> > computer.
> >
> >web page
> >Good Luck, Manny please help me reach a million >clicks by forwarding my 
> >stand-up comedy >performance to your friends, or Tweet or >Facebook it. ** 
> >** ** ** ** >**http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** >** ** ** ** 
> >computer specifications: Window Eyes >9.3, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home 
> >premium, with >dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel® >Core™2 Quad 
> >Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, >1066 MHz FSB) quad core drivers and 
> >software >updated automatically with Ninite and Driver >Booster, which 
> >sighted assistance is needed, but >other than that Driver Booster is a great 
> >>program. Recommended software: Firefox, >Thunderbird, Google Chrome, 
> >Winamp, Fritz 12, >Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft 
> >>security essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win >Patrol, Roboform, Maintenance: 
> >C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
> >On 1/29/2016 1:39 AM, Brandon Miller via Talk wrote:
> >>I'm using Windows 10 home, version 1511, OS >>build 10586.71. I'm also 
> >>using Window-eyes >>9.3.1. I am currently doing my best to contend with 
> >>annoyances such as:
> >>1.  When I press alt+F4 to close apps, Wineyes >>frequently says nothing at 
> >>all. If I want to >>confirm that anything has taken place at all, I >>often 
> >>have to press the Wineyes read title bar command, Ctrl+shift+T.
> >>2.  I'm a Microsoft certified systems engineer, >>so I frequently go in and 
> >>delete a whole batch >>of files from places like the temp, %temp%, and 
> >>>>prefetch folders to not only free up disk >>space, but to also maintain 
> >>high overall system >>stability and responsiveness. Often times in 
> >>>>Windows 10 however, just as above I am almost >>always greeted by nothing 
> >>except total silence >>from Wineyes about halfway through this >>seemingly 
> >>simple operation. Because of my >>educational background, and the level of 
> >>>>familiarity that I have regarding >>internal/background Windows 
> >>processes, services >>and structures, I've been able to deduce that >>as a 
> >>blind person using Window-eyes, you've >>usually got to alt+tab around to 
> >>find the >>screen where you have to use the Wineyes mouse >>reading 
> >>commands to click on the "Continue with >>automatic administrator rights" 
> >>button, and in >>the same screen I also have to use the Wineyes >>mouse 
> >>reading keys since I tend to put a check >>in the checkbox that says, "Do 
> >>this for all items".
> >>3.  If you access the start button and select >>settings, although the 
> >>screens within are >>mostly accessible, the mouse reading commands >>can 
> >>get tripped up and are read out by Wineyes >>in either a nonsensical, or 
> >>undesirable way. To >>experience for yourself what I'm talking about, do 
> >>the following:
> >>A.  Access the start menu.
> >>B.  Press up arrow until you get to settings. Press enter on settings.
> >>C.  Press right arrow once to move the cursor, >>and subsequently the focus 
> >>to, the devices category and press enter.
> >>D.  At this point, the category that should be >>automatically selected for 
> >>you by default will >>more than likely be printers and scanners. That's 
> >>fine.
> >>E.  Now press tab four times, and you should >>arrive at some kind of 
> >>checkbox regarding metered internet connections.
> >>Wineyes doesn't read that checkbox properly >>when tabbing through the 
> >>screen, and I can't >>get the mouse reading keys to get to that >>checkbox 
> >>either! I am able to get the Wineyes >>mouse reading keys to let me access 
> >>the first >>checkbox of this screen, so I know that it for >>example says, 
> >>"Let Windows manage my default >>printer". The second checkbox on this 
> >>screen >>however, is not reading properly at all.
> >>4.  Last but not least, Window-eyes is giving >>me all kinds of problems 
> >>when trying to do >>something as simple as write an email with 
> >>>>Thunderbird! I'll be in the middle of composing >>a simple, old 
> >>fashioned, plane text email, when >>suddenly and without any kind of 
> >>warning, >>Window-eyes'll just start announcing my title >>bar as untitled, 
> >>and not read anything in >>either the subject, or body fields of the 
> >>>>message. I ensure that the window is maximized, >>makes no difference. I 
> >>press Ctrl+alt+W to >>relaunch Window-eyes, which sometimes does, and 
> >>>>sometimes doesn't make any difference. I've >>tried uninstalling the TB 
> >>Enhance app, thinking >>that it might not have exactly kept pace with 
> >>>>Mozilla's Thunderbird development team, but >>doing so also unfortunately 
> >>made no discernible >>difference. I've had to re-launch Window-eyes 
> >>>>literally no less than four times while composing this message alone!
> >>What's up with all these little annoying >>problems I'm experiencing with 
> >>regard to >>Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.3.1? Is anybody >>else contending 
> >>with stuff like this?
> >>
> >>P.S What the H e double hockysticks! Now the >>Read To Me app isn't working 
> >>in Thunderbird >>either! Before you ask, yes, I guarantee you >>I've set it 
> >>up correctly, I would know since >>I've used it successfully before on this 
> >>PC in >>both Firefox 43, and Internet Explorer 11. >>Right now though, 
> >>Ctrl+shift+r at the top of >>the message? Nothing. Ctrl+shift+r in the 
> >>>>middle of the message? Nada. Ctrl+shift+r in >>the middle of a line in 
> >>the middle of the >>message? Zilch. Zippo. Grrrrr! Ai Squared, what gives!
> >>
> >>Disclaimer: Be advised; It is possible that >>this communication is being 
> >>monitored by the National Security Agency or GCHQ.
> >>I   neither condone, or support, any such >>policy by any Government 
> >>authority that does >>not comply appropriately as stipulated by the 
> >>>>fourth Amendment of the constitution of the United States of America.
> >>
> >>Brandon Dean Miller
> >>
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