nope, at least not the last time I tried that. lol
-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth via Talk
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 1:25 PM
To: manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Wineyes and Windows 10 oddities
When you cannot read what you have written in an
application such as your email client, does
pressing insert-backslash to re-draw the screen or maximizing your window
help?
Elizabeth
At 11:38 AM 1/29/2016, you wrote:
Hi Brandon, Thanks for your detailed post. I am using Windows 7 and I have
encountered all of WE9.3 problems that you outlined. I am writing this
email in notepad because trying to move around in Thunderbird would only
give me a bing sound. When closing programs like Firefox and Chrome, WE9.3
crashes and generates an error report, which I fill out with as much detail
as possible. One day in about 2 hours, I sent 4 error reports. I strongly
suggested everyone encountering these problems to post so that the
magnitude of these problems will be revealed. Many thanks, Manny Good Luck,
Manny please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up
comedy performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. ** ** ** ** **
**http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g ** ** ** ** ** computer
specifications: Window Eyes 9.3, Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with
dual boot to windows 10, with 8 gb RAM, Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor
Q66600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB) quad core drivers and software
updated automatically with Ninite and Driver Booster, which sighted
assistance is needed, but other than that Driver Booster is a great
program. Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp,
Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security
essential, Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform, Maintenance: C-cleaner,
Ultra Defrag On 1/29/2016 4:50 AM, Simon Cavendish via Talk wrote: > Yes,
I’ve been experiencing having to relaunch Window-eyes again and again
because it suddenly goes quiet on me and I don’t know what’s going on.
I don’t think window-eyes is ready for windows 10. > > Simon >> On 29 Jan
2016, at 11:39, Brandon Miller via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I'm using Windows 10 home, version 1511, OS build 10586.71. I'm also
using Window-eyes 9.3.1. I am currently doing my best to contend with
annoyances such as: >> 1. When I press alt+F4 to close apps, Wineyes
frequently says nothing at all. If I want to confirm that anything has
taken place at all, I often have to press the Wineyes read title bar
command, Ctrl+shift+T. >> 2. I'm a Microsoft certified systems engineer,
so I frequently go in and delete a whole batch of files from places like
the temp, %temp%, and prefetch folders to not only free up disk space, but
to also maintain high overall system stability and responsiveness. Often
times in Windows 10 however, just as above I am almost always greeted by
nothing except total silence from Wineyes about halfway through this
seemingly simple operation. Because of my educational background, and the
level of familiarity that I have regarding internal/background Windows
processes, services and structures, I've been able to deduce that as a
blind person using Window-eyes, you've usually got to alt+tab around to
find the screen where you have to use the Wineyes mouse reading commands to
click on the "Continue with automatic administrator rights" button, and in
the same screen I also have to use the Wineyes mouse reading keys since I
tend to put a check in the checkbox that says, "Do this for all items". >>
3. If you access the start button and select settings, although the
screens within are mostly accessible, the mouse reading commands can get
tripped up and are read out by Wineyes in either a nonsensical, or
undesirable way. To experience for yourself what I'm talking about, do the
following: >> A. Access the start menu. >> B. Press up arrow until you
get to settings. Press enter on settings. >> C. Press right arrow once to
move the cursor, and subsequently the focus to, the devices category and
press enter. >> D. At this point, the category that should be
automatically selected for you by default will more than likely be printers
and scanners. That's fine. >> E. Now press tab four times, and you should
arrive at some kind of checkbox regarding metered internet connections. >>
Wineyes doesn't read that checkbox properly when tabbing through the
screen, and I can't get the mouse reading keys to get to that checkbox
either! I am able to get the Wineyes mouse reading keys to let me access
the first checkbox of this screen, so I know that it for example says, "Let
Windows manage my default printer". The second checkbox on this screen
however, is not reading properly at all. >> 4. Last but not least,
Window-eyes is giving me all kinds of problems when trying to do something
as simple as write an email with Thunderbird! I'll be in the middle of
composing a simple, old fashioned, plane text email, when suddenly and
without any kind of warning, Window-eyes'll just start announcing my title
bar as untitled, and not read anything in either the subject, or body
fields of the message. I ensure that the window is maximized, makes no
difference. I press Ctrl+alt+W to relaunch Window-eyes, which sometimes
does, and sometimes doesn't make any difference. I've tried uninstalling
the TB Enhance app, thinking that it might not have exactly kept pace with
Mozilla's Thunderbird development team, but doing so also unfortunately
made no discernible difference. I've had to re-launch Window-eyes literally
no less than four times while composing this message alone! >> What's up
with all these little annoying problems I'm experiencing with regard to
Windows 10 and Window-eyes 9.3.1? Is anybody else contending with stuff
like this? >> >> P.S What the H e double hockysticks! Now the Read To Me
app isn't working in Thunderbird either! Before you ask, yes, I guarantee
you I've set it up correctly, I would know since I've used it successfully
before on this PC in both Firefox 43, and Internet Explorer 11. Right now
though, Ctrl+shift+r at the top of the message? Nothing. Ctrl+shift+r in
the middle of the message? Nada. Ctrl+shift+r in the middle of a line in
the middle of the message? Zilch. Zippo. Grrrrr! Ai Squared, what gives! >>
>> Disclaimer: Be advised; It is possible that this communication is being
monitored by the National Security Agency or GCHQ. >> I neither condone,
or support, any such policy by any Government authority that does not
comply appropriately as stipulated by the fourth Amendment of the
constitution of the United States of America. >> >> Brandon Dean Miller >>
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