I also agree! Bob, K8LR, [email protected]
On 12/22/2016 2:01 PM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote:
Me too, Chris. Window-Eyes is my dailey product as well. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 10:54 AM To: Kim Lingo; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Window-eyes is still great The future of Window-eyes may be in somewhat doubt but as long as they're still selling it and as long as people are using it it's still alive, and it's what I use on a daily basis. lets stop being so negative. The very moment I get official word from either VFO, or someone from AI Squared, i'm going on the idea that Window-eyes is still alive and kicking. On 12/22/2016 1:05 PM, Kim Lingo via Talk wrote:Hi everyone, I think general opinion is right here. Let's all start coming up with original subject lines, unless some one has the power to resurrect things. I realize that this is a little more time-consuming than pressing control-r, but there's nothing wrong with a little creativity. Kim Lingo -----Original Message----- From: Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:49 AM To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts WindowEyes:Window-Eyes is Dead! Amen to this. ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0600 via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:And, my delete finger is getting tired. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Loy via Talk Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM To: [email protected]; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim via Talk To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! I agree! There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally unfounded rumors. I really do wish this list would get back to discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it. PLEASE folks! Have A Great Day! de <KF8LT><Jim>. On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > I agree. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my > friends... > > > > > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still >> selling it? Pam. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >> >> And lets add to that. How about several employees leaving Ai >> Squared. The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling Window-Eyes. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: brice Mijares via Talk >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM >> To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! >> >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does >> this tell you? >> >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: >>> Hi there FOLKS! >>> >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate >>> future. I really cannot say as much for the long run. I called about >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for >>> the future as far as that goes. So Please do not start this BS about >>> Window-Eyes being dead again. That, I can say I would GREATLY >>> APPRECIATE!. <KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth> >>> >>> >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote: >>>> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing. JAWS does a very >>>> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job >>>> than Window Eyes. >>>> >>>> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program, >>>> and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest >>>> upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update, >>>> andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend >>>> an extra $200. >>>> Then >>>> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has >>>> trouble installing on more than one or two Systems. >>>> >>>> And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I >>>> loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something >>>> else in my system that caused the system lock up. >>>> >>>> I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves >>>> and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear >>>> Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find >>>> her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old girl. >>>> >>>> Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to >>>> do with the desperation of many who are Blind. >>>> Here is something to think about- >>>> I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a >>>> Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM, and a 750 GB Hard Drive, >>>> for $250. >>>> >>>> We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests >>>> them and puts them up for sale. >>>> So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of >>>> JAWS is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure. >>>> >>>> When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as >>>> the computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with that. >>>> >>>> And I know JAWS is a Company that is to make a profit for the >>>> owners, and making a healthy profit is something I have no problem >>>> with a Company doing. But there is the Greed factor that tends to >>>> raise its uglyhead, and that is when a Company will charge what they >>>> believe the Market will bare. And with most program sales getting >>>> paid for by our Government, the same government that will pay $600 >>>> for a Toilet Seat, why not charge Uncle SAM $1200 for a screen >>>> Reader program? After all, Uncle SAM is good for it, even though few >>>> people who are Blind can afford it, with most living on minimum wage >>>> jobs, or some level of Social Security. >>>> >>>> JAWS as a program, does many things right, and even better than >>>> Window Eyes, in some cases. >>>> >>>> I just never liked their method of doing business, or how they >>>> interacted with their customers. >>>> >>>> I stayed with GW Micro largely because they were a great group of >>>> people to work and deal with when you needed to do so. From the >>>> days of DOS to just before the purchasing of GW Micro by A I Squared >>>> I felt their customer service and program support was very very >>>> good. And there were times when the guys could not fix what ever my >>>> issue was at the time. >>>> But, they didn't just ignore my situation, or mock me for having a >>>> problem. >>>> >>>> I almost always found Window Eyes to be a very reliable program, and >>>> so when I did have those times when my system would freeze or lock >>>> up, I was prone to think it was Internet Exploder, or some other >>>> program, including Windows Itself to be the culprit before I considered > the >>>> Screen Reader. That is the very high level of reliability I came to >>>> expect from GW Micro, because that is what they produced for years. >>>> >>>> Today, I do not have the same degree of Faith in those who run GW >>>> Micro. >>>> And I do not know if this is only because some of the old staff are >>>> now gone, and those replacing them are not quite as good, or if what >>>> I sense is the hand of the Parent Company influencing how those who >>>> still work at GW Micro do their jobs. And now that A I Squared has >>>> been swallowed by the Parent Company of JAWS, there is even a >>>> greater distance theTop >>>> decision makers have from the every day user of Window Eyes. So it >>>> takes longer and longer to fix problems, or to make alterations to >>>> Window Eyes etc. >>>> >>>> Personally, I need a powerful Screen Reader. I use NVDA on >>>> occasion, but it is not powerful enough to do everything I need from >>>> a Screen Reader. There may come a Day when I must buy my own copy >>>> of JAWS. I won't like it, but if they are the only Game in town, then > what choice >>>> do I have? 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