Amen to this. ********************************
www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:11:56 -0600 via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: > And, my delete finger is getting tired. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Loy via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:18 PM > To: [email protected]; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: We should stop using this subject line it only hurts Window > Eyes:Window-Eyes is Dead! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim via Talk > To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:16 PM > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > > I agree! > > There has been no official announcement from AISquared or VFO regarding > this topic and yes, you can still call AISquared and order an SMA. So I > think that someone is simply trying to start and continue totally > unfounded rumors. I really do wish this list would get back to > discussing Window-Eyes and Window-Eyes issues instead of concocting and > spreading baseless rumors! If I am proven wrong, then so be it. PLEASE > folks! Have A Great Day! de > > <KF8LT><Jim>. > > > On 20-Dec-16 16:45, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > > I agree. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk > > Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 12:18 PM > > To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > > > > until i hear an official announcement window-eyes is not dead. it's the > > thread that never ends...it goes on and on and on and on and on my > > friends... > > > > > > > > > > On 12/18/2016 12:14 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: > >> Well then if that's true, then why are the window eyes people still > >> selling it? Pam. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk > >> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:50 AM > >> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > >> > >> And lets add to that. How about several employees leaving Ai > >> Squared. The VFO group has ask the dealers to stop selling > Window-Eyes. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- From: brice Mijares via Talk > >> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 6:35 PM > >> To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes is Dead! > >> > >> I been a window eyes user since the 90's and earlier this week I sent > >> support a question and still haven't heard back from them. What does > >> this tell you? > >> > >> On 12/17/2016 6:08 PM, Jim via Talk wrote: > >>> Hi there FOLKS! > >>> > >>> Well I seem to have addressed this issue just a few days ago, as far > >>> as I know Window-Eyes is going no where in the near or intermediate > >>> future. I really cannot say as much for the long run. I called > about > >>> obtaining a new LTO and they are still selling them and plan to for > >>> the future as far as that goes. So Please do not start this BS about > >>> Window-Eyes being dead again. That, I can say I would GREATLY > >>> APPRECIATE!. <KF8LT><Jim Wohlgamuth> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 17-Dec-16 20:27, Dave via Talk wrote: > >>>> Veronica, for me it is more of a personal thing. JAWS does a very > >>>> good job at reading screens, and in some cases it does a better job > >>>> than Window Eyes. > >>>> > >>>> But, JAWS in my experience has very poor Support for its program, > >>>> and they always want Money Money Money for their latest and greatest > >>>> upgrade, and sometimes their latest upgrade is more like an Update, > >>>> andcx isn't all that much better than what you had bfore you spend > >>>> an extra $200. > >>>> Then > >>>> they put a Copywrite protection on their program so an owner has > >>>> trouble installing on more than one or two Systems. > >>>> > >>>> And JAWS always seemed to be just a bit Buggy, and I hate it when I > >>>> loose speech, and I cannot tell if it was Window Eyes or something > >>>> else in my system that caused the system lock up. > >>>> > >>>> I am Joking, but I do understand that Blind people are all Thieves > >>>> and we would steal the Copper Penny's covering our dear > >>>> Grandmother's eyes, as she awaits her funeral, if we only could find > >>>> her without someone taking our hand and leading us up to the old > girl. > >>>> > >>>> Of course JAWS selling their program for over $1000 has nothing to > >>>> do with the desperation of many who are Blind. > >>>> Here is something to think about- > >>>> I am going to go out to the Computer Store tonight, and Purchase a > >>>> Quad Core 3.4 I5 System with 16 GB of RAM, and a 750 GB Hard Drive, > >>>> for $250. > >>>> > >>>> We have a store here called Re-PC that takes in used systems, tests > >>>> them and puts them up for sale. > >>>> So I can buy a used system for $250, and I think the Pro edition of > >>>> JAWS is over $1200, maybe someone here can correct this figure. > >>>> > >>>> When the Screen Reader costs four or almost five times as much as > >>>> the computer it will run upon, guess I have a problem with that. > >>>> > >>>> And I know JAWS is a Company that is to make a profit for the > >>>> owners, and making a healthy profit is something I have no problem > >>>> with a Company doing. But there is the Greed factor that tends to > >>>> raise its uglyhead, and that is when a Company will charge what they > >>>> believe the Market will bare. And with most program sales getting > >>>> paid for by our Government, the same government that will pay $600 > >>>> for a Toilet Seat, why not charge Uncle SAM $1200 for a screen > >>>> Reader program? After all, Uncle SAM is good for it, even though few > >>>> people who are Blind can afford it, with most living on minimum wage > >>>> jobs, or some level of Social Security. > >>>> > >>>> JAWS as a program, does many things right, and even better than > >>>> Window Eyes, in some cases. > >>>> > >>>> I just never liked their method of doing business, or how they > >>>> interacted with their customers. > >>>> > >>>> I stayed with GW Micro largely because they were a great group of > >>>> people to work and deal with when you needed to do so. From the > >>>> days of DOS to just before the purchasing of GW Micro by A I Squared > >>>> I felt their customer service and program support was very very > >>>> good. And there were times when the guys could not fix what ever my > >>>> issue was at the time. > >>>> But, they didn't just ignore my situation, or mock me for having a > >>>> problem. > >>>> > >>>> I almost always found Window Eyes to be a very reliable program, and > >>>> so when I did have those times when my system would freeze or lock > >>>> up, I was prone to think it was Internet Exploder, or some other > >>>> program, including Windows Itself to be the culprit before I > considered > > the > >>>> Screen Reader. That is the very high level of reliability I came to > >>>> expect from GW Micro, because that is what they produced for years. > >>>> > >>>> Today, I do not have the same degree of Faith in those who run GW > >>>> Micro. > >>>> And I do not know if this is only because some of the old staff are > >>>> now gone, and those replacing them are not quite as good, or if what > >>>> I sense is the hand of the Parent Company influencing how those who > >>>> still work at GW Micro do their jobs. And now that A I Squared has > >>>> been swallowed by the Parent Company of JAWS, there is even a > >>>> greater distance theTop > >>>> decision makers have from the every day user of Window Eyes. So > it > >>>> takes longer and longer to fix problems, or to make alterations to > >>>> Window Eyes etc. > >>>> > >>>> Personally, I need a powerful Screen Reader. I use NVDA on > >>>> occasion, but it is not powerful enough to do everything I need from > >>>> a Screen Reader. There may come a Day when I must buy my own copy > >>>> of JAWS. I won't like it, but if they are the only Game in town, > then > > what choice > >>>> do I have? 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