Could the difference between accessibility on a I phone or I Pad and a Mac book be that the phones and I pads are running the mobile versions of a web site or ap and the Mac book isn't? I have been considering purchasing a I Pad but just don't know which one to buy and wether it is really a solution to avoid having to move to JAWS. I have been using NVDA and it works fairly well but too has its shortcomings on some web pages.

On 4/4/2017 8:02 AM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote:
Tony,

I share some of your frustrations.  I had to use JAWS more during the past year 
to do certain things on my job, and I was surprised at all of what I feel are 
bugs in JAWS.  It always seemed to me that many JAWS users felt that 
Window-Eyes had a monopoly on bugs.  On my job, both JAWS and Window-Eyes 
worked on some older software that I used while NVDA did not work with it.  
While I like my iPhone, I have found myself frustrated there with bugs as well. 
 The pace of change in technology, particularly web site development, is really 
putting a squeeze on our access on all platforms in my opinion.  I know of 
people who have switched to the MAC and would never switch back, but I also 
know of a few who have switched back.  Also, some of your examples are partly 
due to inconsistent or poor web browser support.  People I have talked to who 
work on accessibility have told me that if a web page is at all complicated, it 
needs to be tested with all combinations of screen readers and web browsers to 
know if the page will work.  There is often even browser-specific code in web 
sites even without accessibility.  It is very possible, for example, that 
Netflix is running different code when you access the very same page with a MAC 
as you access with a Windows browser.  This makes it very hard to determine 
where problems exist.

I hope that your switch to Apple works well for you.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:46 AM
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Subject: Windows screen readers

Hello, Before I say anything, let me first say that I was a Jaws user for 
several years before switching to Window Eyes back in 2004, and I’ve been a 
faitful WE user ever since. Why is it that everytime someone can’t use a 
certain website or something like I tunes or Netflix the first thing is they 
need to fix their website. Why is it that II a person can go to Netflix on an 
IOS device and using Voice Over can use netflix with no problem. Now we are 
talking about a free built in screen reader as opposed to an $895 and $1195 
third party screen readers? I can’t use Netflix on my PC because both Jaws and 
Window eyes people have told me it isn’t accessible. However I can go to 
Netflix using my I phone or my I Pad Mini and use netflix with the free screen 
reader? I mean I don’t get it, support at both Jaws and WE have said it isn’t 
accessible and they can’t make their screenreaders work with it, but IOS does???
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