Hi, The I pad mini 21, 2, or 3 are about the same. Fairly easy to learn.
reasonalbely priced at about $230.00 Take it out of the box turn it on
turn on voice over and have fun.
-----Original Message----- From: Don H via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:11 AM
To: [email protected] ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Windows screen readers
Could the difference between accessibility on a I phone or I Pad and a
Mac book be that the phones and I pads are running the mobile versions
of a web site or ap and the Mac book isn't? I have been considering
purchasing a I Pad but just don't know which one to buy and wether it is
really a solution to avoid having to move to JAWS. I have been using
NVDA and it works fairly well but too has its shortcomings on some web
pages.
On 4/4/2017 8:02 AM, Steve Jacobson via Talk wrote:
> Tony,
>
> I share some of your frustrations. I had to use JAWS more during the
> past
> year to do certain things on my job, and I was surprised at all of
> what
> I
> feel are bugs in JAWS. It always seemed to me that many JAWS users
> felt
> that Window-Eyes had a monopoly on bugs. On my job, both JAWS and
> Window-Eyes worked on some older software that I used while NVDA did
> not
> work with it. While I like my iPhone, I have found myself frustrated
> there with bugs as well. The pace of change in technology,
> particularly
> web site development, is really putting a squeeze on our access on
> all
> platforms in my opinion. I know of people who have switched to the
> MAC
> and would never switch back, but I also know of a few who have
> switched
> back. Also, some of your examples are partly due to inconsistent or
> poor
> web browser support. People I have talked to who work on
> accessibility
> have told me that if a web page is at all complicated, it needs to be
> tested with all combinations of screen readers and web browsers to
> know
> if
> the page will work. There is often even browser-specific code in web
> sites even without accessibility. It is very possible, for example,
> that
> Netflix is running different code when you access the very same page
> with
> a MAC as you access with a Windows browser. This makes it very hard
> to
> determine where problems exist.
>
> I hope that your switch to Apple works well for you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On
> Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 3:46 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Windows screen readers
>
> Hello, Before I say anything, let me first say that I was a Jaws user
> for
> several years before switching to Window Eyes back in 2004, and I’ve
> been a faitful WE user ever since. Why is it that everytime someone
> can’t use a certain website or something like I tunes or Netflix the
> first thing is they need to fix their website. Why is it that II a
> person
> can go to Netflix on an IOS device and using Voice Over can use
> netflix
> with no problem. Now we are talking about a free built in screen
> reader
> as
> opposed to an $895 and $1195 third party screen readers? I can’t use
> Netflix on my PC because both Jaws and Window eyes people have told
> me
> it
> isn’t accessible. However I can go to Netflix using my I phone or my
> I
> Pad Mini and use netflix with the free screen reader? I mean I don’t
> get
> it, support at both Jaws and WE have said it isn’t accessible and
> they
> can’t make their screenreaders work with it, but IOS does???
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